I'm giving a quick talk next week on Mono For Android. I kind of question if it is worthwhile at this point. But, lucky for me it was only a few hours of prep time for the talk - not a big deal.
Personally, I think it's time to learn ObjectiveC (already comfortable with Java and the Android SDK). I'll keep an eye on Xamarin, and hopefully they can get their new MonoTouch/MonoAndroid stuff out in short order. 2011/5/16 Wally McClure <theevilprogram...@hotmail.com> > Thanks for the kind words. Personally, I can't tell you what you should > do right now. I did 2 talks last week on mobile strategies and ended them > by saying that there are a number of options out there for them to consider > and each must make an educated decision. I chose monotouch and mono for > android. Now Attachmate has made this a questionable decision. [image: > Sad smile] > > I think some of the options are: > > - Listen to what Attachmate says. Given that they have had two weeks > to prepare a statement, I question if they ever will. Can you trust what > they have to say at this point? Can you trust that they can produce a > product that will meet your needs? Th e statement "All technology roadmaps > remain intact" rings very hollow. > > http://morewally.com/cs/blogs/wallym/archive/2011/05/16/all-technology-roadmaps-remain-except-for-the-ones-that-we-won-t-tell-you-about.aspx > - Stay the course with Monotouch and listen to what Miguel is doing. > Monotouch is kinda mature at this point, so its got some legs. Can I get > to that point based on the current version of monotouch? What happens with > iOS5? > - Mono for Android. Unfortunately, Mono for Android still has enough > issues that I can't recommend it as it exists. Sorry, thats just the > situation the product is in today. The debugging doesn't work, its too > slow > on startup of apps, its just not all there at this point in time. I'm not > going to use it. > - Just go to the vendor dire cted products, meaning ObjectiveC. I > realize that there are a number of issues, but this will keep me from ever > getting mucked up. Yes the learning curve is not small. I won't have to > worry about Apple with their self fud, someone from SUSE shooting their > mouth off about getting rid of Mono (yeah, that happened as well), or this. > Should I just go ahead and bite the bullet? Don't underestimate that > learning curve. > > > What is everyone looking to do? > > Wally > > ------------------------------ > From: steve.mad...@adsfactory.com > > To: monodroid@lists.ximian.com > Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 14:00:52 -0700 > > Subject: Re: [mono-android] Can not purchase Monotouch Android on Novel > Store > > Hi All... > > I'm a observer on the Android development as I haven't had any time to use > if for development yet...However, I have several apps in the app > store written in MonoTouch and I have 4 more due this month... > > We are from Oklahoma, where a deal is a deal...If you want out of the deal > then let us know why, when and (at the very least) what we should expect > since we invested time and money in you...If I did this to a customer, I'd > have a pissed off 6' 5" cowboy at my door the next morning... > > My major concern is having to move to exclusive XCode development to > continue our products. We can do this, but I'd rather not have to explain to > my wife (owner of the company too) we need to re invest 6 months in > retraining our help not to mention loosing the momentum we have with our > other apps... > > Wally, dude....Love the books...I've bought 2...Lead us Obi Wan against the > evil empire (evil_empire = Attachmate)... > P.S Did I mention my wife is German? > > Steve > > *From:* Wally McClure > *Sent:* Monday, May 16, 2011 1:37 PM > *To:* monodroid@lists.ximian.com > *Subject:* Re: [mono-android] SPAM-LOW: Re: Can not purchase Monotouch > Android on Novel Store > > You and me both. I just watched at least $100k of work go down the drain > with this. I am upset to say the least. > > Wally > > ------------------------------ > Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 17:35:27 -0300 > From: k...@e-magesolutions.com > To: monodroid@lists.ximian.com > Subject: Re: [mono-android] SPAM-LOW: Re: Can not purchase Monotouch > Android on Novel Store > > I have an application deployed on 2 enterprises and with new contracts to > come to honor util July… And porting to Android is in the middle of the > process with a contract in standby too. > > Will just be good to know from Attachmate and Xamarin what happens with > actual licences to see if we can change our jobs, scape from country to > avoid local law, move do Alaska and work with fishing, call international > lawyers or if we just continue working… > > (Maybe I can sell hotdogs and soda at the beach) > > Karl > > From : Nick Maddern <nmadd...@hotmail.com> > Reply-To: "monodroid@lists.ximian.com" <monodroid@lists.ximian.com> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 06:20:57 +1000 > To: "monodroid@lists.ximian.com" <monodroid@lists.ximian.com> > Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: [mono-android] Can not purchase Monotouch Android > on Novel Store > > I am interested in knowing what the future for MonoTouch is…. I am > currently writing an application, and getting close to the point where I > want to deploy to an iDevice. > Questions going through my head are: > - Do I bite the bullet and purchase a MT license now so I can deploy before > they pull it from the store, but left with $$$ worth of unsupported software > (will it still be unsupported?)? > - Or should I wait (and delay!) x number of months to buy the shiny new > product? And how long will x be? > > There are a lot of unknowns in what is going on in MT land… with all the > turmoil going on (e.g. Apples TOS banning and then allowing MT, Attachmate) > it makes me nervous to keep investing time and effort in MT and related > technologies (don’t get me wrong… I love the thing) > > I would just like a clear roadmap with expected timelines from > Attachmate/Xamarin to help me make my decisions. > > Thanks, Nick > > From: Marcio Alexandroni <mar...@cialogica.com.br> > Reply-To: Discussions related to Mono for Android < > monodroid@lists.ximian.com> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 17:00:05 -0300 > To: Discussions related to Mono for Android <monodroid@lists.ximian.com> > Subject: Re: [mono-android] Can not purchase Monotouch Android on Novel > Store > > It looks like Miguel and his guys are in a new company to create a new > toolset for iOS and Android, i.e., it seems they are not working anymore on > MonoTouch and Mono-Android. > > So the question remains, what will be the future of the current tools, by > Attachmante? > > I guess we will have to wait to see what happens, or wait for the new > Miguel's tools and buy them again. > > Marcio Alexandroni > ( (+55 11) 9989-8316 > cialogica > -- > > > > ------------------------------ > *From: *Nikolai Sander <niko...@eodsoft.com <http://eodsoft.com>> > *Reply-To: *Discussions related to Mono for Android < > monodroid@lists.ximian.com <http://lists.ximian.com>> > *Date: *Mon, 16 May 2011 12:55:13 -0700 > *To: *Discussions related to Mono for Android > <monodroid@lists.ximian.com<http://lists.ximian.com> > > > *Subject: *Re: [mono-android] Can not purchase Monotouch Android on Novel > Store > > Yes! > > http://tirania.org/blog/ > > Nikolai > > On May 16, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Brian Nelson wrote: > > It's Monday... > > Any news? > > Thanks, > Brian Nelson > Software Architect > Mobile Epiphany > > > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 5:14 AM, Nic Wise > <n...@fastchicken.co.nz<http://fastchicken.co.nz>> > wrote: > > possibly, you wait until monday when Miguel announces something. he's at > Google IO, so I suspect he's busy (or hung over.... hang on, thats SXSW ) > > > *plitwin <https://twitter.com/#!/plitwin> *Paul Litwin > @migueldeicaza <http://twitter.com/migueldeicaza> When can we expect to > hear from you on the Attachmate debacle and how it affects Mono, MonoTouch, > and MonoDroid? > 10 May <https://twitter.com/#!/plitwin/status/67734122096885760> Favorite > <https://twitter.com/#> Retweet <https://twitter.com/#> Reply < > https://twitter.com/#> > > *migueldeicaza <https://twitter.com/#!/migueldeicaza> *Miguel de Icaza > @ > @plitwin <http://twitter.com/plitwin> Monday I will have a full statement > 10 May <https://twitter.com/#!/migueldeicaza/status/67735755828641792> < > https://twitter.com/#> <https://twitter.com/#> > <https://twitter.com/#<https://twitter..com/#>> > > > *plitwin <https://twitter.com/#!/plitwin> *Paul Litwin > @ > @migueldeicaza <http://twitter.com/migueldeicaza> Today is Monday! :) I > presume you mean next Monday? > 10 May <https://twitter.com/#!/plitwin/status/6773 > 5895264075776<https://twitter.com/#!/plitwin/status/67735895264075776>> > <https://twitter.com/#> <https://twitter.com/#> <https://twitter.com/#> > in reply to ↑ > <https://twitter.com/#!/migueldeicaza> > *@migueldeicaza <https://twitter.com/#!/migueldeicaza> *Miguel de Icaza > @plitwin <http://twitter.com/plitwin <http://twitte+r.com/plitwin>> yes > > > > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 11:49, Eric Beser > <eric.be...@e-isg.com<http://e-isg.com>> > wrote: > > I have been trying to purchase the Monotouch android, and I get as far as > payment, and the error is “this option is not available for your area” and > paypal is not working either. > > > Has the store been effectively closed? 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