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On Thu, 2021-01-21 at 08:54 -0500, Chris via mailop wrote:
> On 2021-01-21 07:26, Jim Popovitch via mailop wrote:
> > On Thu, 2021-01-21 at 13:08 +0100, Alessandro Vesely via mailop wrote:
> > > So yes, perhaps it's not extortion.  We may call it demanding money with
> > > menaces, exaction, extraction, blackmail...
> > 
> > Lot's of things in life require payment(s), or purchase of addon
> > equipment, depending on your circumstances in life, your living
> > arrangements, or your location.  If you are in a high-crime area your
> > mortgage insurance will probably require you to purchase an alarm, or if
> > your home is prone to house fires, a smoke detector.  Then there are
> > taxes, fees, licenses, etc.  Life is self is pay-to-play, whether you
> > realize it or not.
> 
> Demanding a payment to protect someone from a threat, that you 
> *yourself* create is called a "protection racket" - classic extortion.
> 
> "Pay us for protection", when it really means "pay us or we'll [break 
> your knees|set your house on fire|break your windows...]" isn't 
> insurance, and can get you arrested.

Neither of those situations describe the reality of what uceprotect is
doing.  They are saying that if you choose to operate in a shady area,
they will, for a payment, whitelist your address so that you can send
email.  Historically, email delivery was always tied to knowing who the
sender was.  This has been going on for decades, even with folks like
Barracuda.  It's never been about the $$, it's always been about
identifying the responsible party.

- -Jim P.
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