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On Fri, 2021-01-22 at 19:12 +0100, Alessandro Vesely via mailop wrote:
> On Thu 21/Jan/2021 19:09:04 +0100 Graeme Fowler via mailop wrote:
> > [Admin note]
> > 
> > Unless you are a representative of UCEPROTECT, or you have something to 
> > actually add to the discussion rather than endlessly nitting on statistics 
> > etc, please refrain from continuing this thread.
> 
> Jim has been on these lists for a long time, and is often a good poster.  An 
> interesting question would be why he is playing public defender for OVH 
> (assuming he's not their representative).

I'd like to not think of myself as an OVH or UCEPROTECT defender.  Those
2 entities can stand on their own without my input.  

Disclaimer: I got a spam from 135.148.37.130 (OVH) this AM. It was a 
Drone spam, mostly due to that email being harvested from a recent FAA
SolarWinds hack.  I have no evidence that is the case, just theorizing.
That email address was given to the FAA well over 4 years ago for a
drone registration.

I've been an odd OVH customer over the past few years, and I've seen
their vetting process first hand.  I don't know if they vet everyone
they way the vetted me, but it was a pretty thorough process (ID scan,
CC, waiting period, email back-n-forth, etc.)  Of course, now that I'm
in their system I can spin up hosts all day long without human review. 
But I'm satisfied that they take new sign ups seriously, and my
honeypots rarely see any sign of them compared to other big entities.

I've been a steady user of UCEPROTECT for years now.  I use their levels
1, 2, and 3 with postscreen rankings along side other popular RBLs. On
my systems a UCEPROTECT level 3 rating will reject, unless the IP is
listed in ips.whitelisted.org.  But even then just 1 RBL hit anywhere
else would override the ips.whitelisted.org listing.  With that setup, I
have yet to see people unable to send email to my systems.

- -Jim P.
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