-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On Thu, 2021-01-21 at 15:15 +0100, Stefano Bagnara via mailop wrote: > On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 at 15:04, Jim Popovitch via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> > wrote: > > > "Pay us for protection", when it really means "pay us or we'll [break > > > your knees|set your house on fire|break your windows...]" isn't > > > insurance, and can get you arrested. > > > > Neither of those situations describe the reality of what uceprotect is > > doing. They are saying that if you choose to operate in a shady area, > > they will, for a payment, whitelist your address so that you can send > > email. Historically, email delivery was always tied to knowing who the > > sender was. This has been going on for decades, even with folks like > > Barracuda. It's never been about the $$, it's always been about > > identifying the responsible party. > > This make me think to the "First the came..." thing: saying that around 1 > million OVH customers *chose* to operate in *shady area* is a strong > statement.
... and OVH cleaned up their act. > Maybe you'll grasp the issue only when they will list Ramnode :-) > Or maybe you'll be happy to pay or to move to another ASN until they catch > up... You seem to be under the assumption that uceprotect is just looking for providers to list. I think, and I know, that Ramnode is a responsible hosting provider. They take abuse report seriously, and act swiftly. If you read the details about the ASNs that uceprotect list, it's clear that those ASNs do not. - -Jim P. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEE3RmV4WutJ2KyCS2zPcxbabkKGJ8FAmAJs88ACgkQPcxbabkK GJ8SCA//d0h9EzFSFDffJlntPa490qWxFtncCypS51qsNNcpv3bj1pn4qf+d8FzT qdW/lFI4sLtbImfAVyIF6EnWR85BiPnZZ4q4juBNdRi2nyRbNUVM5XSrCV4exiTN xOTbqbiVZJqkLle3STYSPhpAK6Lg753qbJx59EHFgSdfX8+1PjfG7TiDIcbS6Y9r 0pmMiWerrPd2admS8PcOdWUAAiKlYlxO6ELGFgGzHL+90HPterSGdoh3s05bfrSG qIYwSrHJwX+gY4TkrVcrI4Rs/kWzy3PuRnd0NhqVFeDSX4/yH5n6oSSeRx1vvhZW QFwnryi2emqZeIXULfeLHDkOOyLIlImIS9rgaGlpAxD37J+sEOsfAWYPh6TNMZOT sRNhCkz00bpvqEed3LNkmYdfPNcyofJJNcyOJRvp5l7xjN48DkuflJTElaJgaLFc HVOCSbxKQ2/jM3l/GlcWXYczGXxtSoXa2QhMOvkv6hTDyOX/uBRbrXDk1yWQrJJd s8p2xVofmqA+H098SSsHQSwH+15pdVUeGWJSjVxjeKz94WHS6HAXiSjvuhZKQlz7 utZeAtBsHiaz5dmyG86HpLJYpvPfoNcNGyhQBniCcTmDD7mX1fa4g/Wh0K78TYn6 1yCXXu2noFOqFb1E2baGlKlYj7uvrj6sBycH14DxWoIwMC0o9rs= =cQ/c -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop
