Thanks Tim. I did realize that. Still trying to figure out why there are so many messages in there as there is no way I saved that many messages. I have been using gmail since 2005, but still wouldn't have saved that many messages. On Feb 10, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, > > The problem with deleting items from the All Mail portion of Gmail is that > when you delete a message from the All Mail, it deletes it from everywhere. > So, for example, if you've kept specific messages and moved them to other > folders, they stay in the All Mail area and Gmail labels them so that they > are also available in the other location. Deleting them from All Mail > consequently deletes them from the other location or locations as well. This > could be extremely bad if those messages contain important information. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Feb 10, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Daniel McGee <danielmcgee...@googlemail.com> > wrote: > >> Bryan, you say you have a bout 1097 messages or whatever the number is that >> sounds pretty high if it is indeed higher than the one I have given above. >> How about deleting the mail you don't need in the all mail folder ¬of your >> gmail account and then confirm that action again once they have been sent to >> the trash which will in turn completely wipe them from the G mail account. >> >> This is just a suggestion mind and you have may already tried it but if not >> go ahead assuming you haven't already deleted the account and see if that >> produces better performing results with Mail and G mail. >> >> Daniel >> On 10 Feb 2014, at 08:05, Chris H <christopher...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Should be in the purchased section of the Mac App Store. >>> >>> Regards Chris >>> >>> On 09/02/2014 23:48, Jessica D wrote: >>>> how would you get ountain lion back without paying? i had it before >>>> mavericks? >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Feb 9, 2014, at 6:40 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Brian, >>>>> >>>>> How about you try disabling your Gmail account temporarily while doing >>>>> your project. Go into Mail Prefs, select Accounts from the Toolbar, >>>>> select your Gmail account from the Accounts Table then uncheck the >>>>> "Enable this Account" checkbox. Now, with your Gmail account disabled, >>>>> you should be able to do your work, receive Mail from other accounts, and >>>>> you can re-enable it when you need it again and it doesn't affect your >>>>> project. >>>>> >>>>> Later... >>>>> >>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 9, 2014, at 4:35 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hey well I guess a clean install isn't going to happen today, as I am >>>>>> not sure if I know how to boot from my external drive, might have to >>>>>> have a buddy who knows more about computers help me with that. Plus I >>>>>> have to back everything up. Just very frustrating to be dealing with >>>>>> something new every day. Sorry for venting but hey you don't have to >>>>>> read it if you don't like it. Thanks to those who have offered >>>>>> solutions. Another funny note is the last few days since I have had >>>>>> these severe issues with mail open and running my Logictech solar >>>>>> keyboard doesn't work, but if I quit mail the Logictech keyboard works >>>>>> fine, very bizarre, and frustrating. And nope changing mail to check >>>>>> every 30 minutes unfortunately didn't help as in the middle of this I >>>>>> got busy busy busy again. >>>>>>> On Feb 9, 2014, at 6:21 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Google "clean install of Mvericks" to get the exact steps, but the >>>>>>> basic idea is you download the installer from the App Store, run a >>>>>>> terminal command once you plug in a properly formatted drive, and wait. >>>>>>> Once that is done, boot to that drive instead of your regular one, open >>>>>>> Disk Utility, completely wipe your Macintosh HD partition (not the >>>>>>> entire hard drive) and then close Disk Utility and select "install Mac >>>>>>> OS 10.9 Mvericks". Once that installs, you're done and can start >>>>>>> restoring your data. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For today, have you considered closing Mail completely and operating >>>>>>> off the Basic HTML version of Gmail's website instead? If you do decide >>>>>>> to switch mail providers, you can always set up forwarding so you will >>>>>>> keep getting your Gmail messages, as others have suggested. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>> Alex >>>>>>> mehg...@gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Feb 9, 2014, at 6:09 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Even more hilarious now I can't even get this gmail account removed >>>>>>>> from my computer as it keeps saying this account is connected to >>>>>>>> something. Not sure what the hell it is talking about as I have >>>>>>>> removed it before, but now with the mail issues I am having and trying >>>>>>>> to remove the account craps everything out. What do I need to do a >>>>>>>> clean install? Do I just need to download Mavericks to my external >>>>>>>> drive or do I need to create a bootable thing of some kind, don't >>>>>>>> remember the steps and today things have gotten so bad and have >>>>>>>> restarted the computer five times and it isn't fixing it, so >>>>>>>> considering I am on deadline for an article to say I'm a little pissed >>>>>>>> off since I need to use gmail for this article is an understatement. >>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>> On Feb 9, 2014, at 5:50 PM, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well, like Alex suggested, you can create a new gmail account and >>>>>>>>> just set it up to forward your mail to it. This might be a little >>>>>>>>> bit of a pain in the neck, but it is a temporary solution you can >>>>>>>>> reverse when the problems are fixed. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Or, again, install ML on an external disk and use that solely for >>>>>>>>> mail until the next version of Mavericks, 10.9.2, is released. This >>>>>>>>> is exactly why I always keep a functioning version of the previous OS >>>>>>>>> available on external partitions. I have them going back to Snow >>>>>>>>> Leopard, in fact. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Take Care >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>>>>>> Director >>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>>>>>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com >>>>>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Feb 9, 2014, at 5:38 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hey John, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the suggestions. It definitely is a gmail and Mavericks >>>>>>>>>> issue as I have removed gmail and then reinstalled it in to the Mac >>>>>>>>>> Mail. When gmail is removed mac mail works fine. My issue is I can't >>>>>>>>>> switch from gmail to another mail provider as I have people >>>>>>>>>> constantly contacting em through gmail. So not sure what to do as I >>>>>>>>>> have heard from several people that doing a clean install did not >>>>>>>>>> fix their gmail problem with mac mail. Considering this problem >>>>>>>>>> doesn't happen every day tells me that it is a gmail and Apple >>>>>>>>>> Mavericks compatability issue. What angers me to no end is I held >>>>>>>>>> off upgrading to Mavericks until Apple claimed they fixed this issue >>>>>>>>>> in December so that is why I am so angry as the days when Mac Mail >>>>>>>>>> and gmail don't cooperate I can't get a thing done. I apologize for >>>>>>>>>> any misspelled words as mail is pausing so much as I type this with >>>>>>>>>> busy busy messages. And like I said everything worked fine yesterday. >>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 9, 2014, at 4:43 PM, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Brian, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> A few things here. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> firstly, I understand frustrations and annoyances that get to >>>>>>>>>>> someone at times. However, remember to put things into >>>>>>>>>>> perspective. I have had no issues like your experiencing on any of >>>>>>>>>>> my three Macs and the only couple of people I know having mail >>>>>>>>>>> issues have the common denominator as Gmail being part of the >>>>>>>>>>> problem. So, to say that you can't recommend Macs because of >>>>>>>>>>> inconsistencies is quite drastic. You are dealing with a situation >>>>>>>>>>> that is either system specific or gmail specific. That has little >>>>>>>>>>> to do with the overall experience of Mavericks most people are >>>>>>>>>>> having. No, Mavericks isn't perfect, but it ain't Windows Vista or >>>>>>>>>>> Windows 8 either by any stretch. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now, with that said, I would do one of 3 things. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 1. If you have an external drive to play with, install a completely >>>>>>>>>>> clean version of Mavericks onto a blank partition. Then, set up >>>>>>>>>>> your Gmail account first and see how it runs. If it is all right, >>>>>>>>>>> then try adding things to that install and see what happens. If >>>>>>>>>>> you find that that install runs in a stable environment, then you >>>>>>>>>>> probably want to do a clean install on your regular system disk. >>>>>>>>>>> If you still have problems, well guess what? It's not the Mac or >>>>>>>>>>> Mavericks, but, instead, is gmail or some configuration of gmail >>>>>>>>>>> you have set up. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2. If you don't have an external drive, you still might want to >>>>>>>>>>> just do a clean install anyway. I'm a big believer in clean >>>>>>>>>>> installs for any new operating system. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 3. If the Mail is your biggest problem and suggestion 1 is either >>>>>>>>>>> not possible or just not practical with your schedule, as I know >>>>>>>>>>> you are quite busy,, you could install Mountain Lion on an external >>>>>>>>>>> drive to do mail and then use Mavericks to access Numbers and Pages. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The first alternative will give you the ability to mess with gmail, >>>>>>>>>>> at least. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Take Care >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>>>>>>>> Director >>>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>>>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>>>>>>>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com >>>>>>>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 9, 2014, at 4:24 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yesterday everything worked fine, so today if I have mail open I >>>>>>>>>>>> can't use any other programs on my computer or mail causes >>>>>>>>>>>> VoiceOver to be so choppy you can't understand a thing. Switching >>>>>>>>>>>> from gmail is not an option as I have years of mail messages >>>>>>>>>>>> archived, and everything worked fine on Mountain Lion. I don't >>>>>>>>>>>> want to go back to Mountain Lion as I need to use Numbers for work >>>>>>>>>>>> and Numbers had gotten unusable under Mountain Lion. What really >>>>>>>>>>>> pisses me off is some days the computer works fine, and the next >>>>>>>>>>>> without being shut off or put to sleep it is unusable. Even a >>>>>>>>>>>> restart doesn't fix the problems. Since starting to write this >>>>>>>>>>>> message, I have been interrupted five times with busy busy errors. >>>>>>>>>>>> I have spoken to Apple Accessibility and they know nothing. Not >>>>>>>>>>>> sure how in the world Apple could have released Mavericks with >>>>>>>>>>>> these kinds of bugs and then claimed they fixed everything. Just >>>>>>>>>>>> very frustrating. I have been a long time Apple boy and suggesting >>>>>>>>>>>> them to everyone but will >>> never again suggest a Mac to anyone, as they used to be consistent and now >>> are as unreliable as a PC. Sorry just had to vent. And yes, I have run disk >>> repairs and still no fix. 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