Hey Thought you might be on to something about drafts, but I just cleared the 
folder out so there ar eno messages, and am still getting the same issues when 
I do the mouse down it opens some Apple menu and of course I can't even scroll 
through whatever Apple menu it is opening, so unfortunately that didn't do the 
trick. Thanks for the suggestion.
On May 29, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Red.Falcon <velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com> 
wrote:

> Hi Brian!
> I've been following this thread!
> I've not done any of this myself but was wondering because you've mentioned 
> drafts!
> That mailbox can appear and disappear so would it make a difference if you 
> have a drafted message in the box then tried to move it!
> Only guessing!
> Colin
> 
> On 29 May 2013, at 13:58, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hey guys,
>> 
>> Must be some kind of a VO issue on my machine, as I followed all of your 
>> steps exactly from the F5 and sure enough the drafts mailbox was under the 
>> VO cursor the entire time. I also checked my settings per Tim's email and my 
>> navigation was properly set up per his suggestions. I am still getting an 
>> Apple menu to pop open when I push down on the trackpad over the drafts 
>> mailbox when trying to remove it from the favorites bar. I also tried using 
>> the VO command shift space bar but this jumps me in to the messages pane of 
>> the drafts folder, which is weird since I used that same command to remove 
>> the other mailbox successfully that I wanted out of favorites. So it is 
>> strange that the same command will not work a second time, but nothing ever 
>> shocks me when it comes to voiceover. So strange, and its not the end of the 
>> world if the drafts mailbox stays in the favorites, but obviously would be 
>> nice to get it out of there. 
>> 
>> And yes, Tim I had toggled VO off and on several times previous to your 
>> suggestion, as I usually find VO needs to reboot itself at least once a day 
>> for some reason some times.
>> 
>> Thanks again, and please do let me know if you think of anything else.
>> On May 28, 2013, at 11:21 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
>> <mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> HI,
>>> 
>>> Re getting rid of favourites:
>>>     •       Do not use the VO-shift-space keystroke. As Tim said-
>>>     1.      Navigate to the mailbox you wish to remove;
>>>     2.      Make sure your TrackPad commander is off by holding down the VO 
>>> keys and rotating two fingers counter clockwise on the TrackPad;
>>>     3.      Use VO-command-F5 to rout the mouse pointer to the VO curser;
>>>     4.      Press VO-F5 to check that the mouse curser is on the mailbox 
>>> you wish to remove;
>>>     5.      If it's not, repeat steps 3 and 4 until it is;
>>>     6.      Press the TrackPad down into the click position and hold it, 
>>> then drag one finger from the top of the TrackPad to the bottom and then 
>>> release the TrackPad entirely.
>>>     7.      You should here a swooshing sound indicating that the mailbox 
>>> is no longer in your favourites bar. If you don't, repeat steps 1 through 7.
>>> 
>>> Re the checkboxes in favourites bar, these simply display the relevant 
>>> mailbox. They should really be radio buttons instead of checkboxes, as only 
>>> one can be active/checked at the one time. So when you press command-3, for 
>>> example, the third mailbox will become checked and active. If you then 
>>> navigate to the favourites bar and check the fourth mailbox, the view will 
>>> change and your fourth mailbox will become active and in view. This is how 
>>> you can still use the favourites bar even with more than 9 mailboxes. The 
>>> first nine you can navigate to with keystrokes, the rest you need to check 
>>> manually.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Nic
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