Hi Brian!
I've been following this thread!
I've not done any of this myself but was wondering because you've mentioned 
drafts!
That mailbox can appear and disappear so would it make a difference if you have 
a drafted message in the box then tried to move it!
Only guessing!
Colin

On 29 May 2013, at 13:58, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey guys,
> 
> Must be some kind of a VO issue on my machine, as I followed all of your 
> steps exactly from the F5 and sure enough the drafts mailbox was under the VO 
> cursor the entire time. I also checked my settings per Tim's email and my 
> navigation was properly set up per his suggestions. I am still getting an 
> Apple menu to pop open when I push down on the trackpad over the drafts 
> mailbox when trying to remove it from the favorites bar. I also tried using 
> the VO command shift space bar but this jumps me in to the messages pane of 
> the drafts folder, which is weird since I used that same command to remove 
> the other mailbox successfully that I wanted out of favorites. So it is 
> strange that the same command will not work a second time, but nothing ever 
> shocks me when it comes to voiceover. So strange, and its not the end of the 
> world if the drafts mailbox stays in the favorites, but obviously would be 
> nice to get it out of there. 
> 
> And yes, Tim I had toggled VO off and on several times previous to your 
> suggestion, as I usually find VO needs to reboot itself at least once a day 
> for some reason some times.
> 
> Thanks again, and please do let me know if you think of anything else.
> On May 28, 2013, at 11:21 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
> <mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> HI,
>> 
>> Re getting rid of favourites:
>>      •       Do not use the VO-shift-space keystroke. As Tim said-
>>      1.      Navigate to the mailbox you wish to remove;
>>      2.      Make sure your TrackPad commander is off by holding down the VO 
>> keys and rotating two fingers counter clockwise on the TrackPad;
>>      3.      Use VO-command-F5 to rout the mouse pointer to the VO curser;
>>      4.      Press VO-F5 to check that the mouse curser is on the mailbox 
>> you wish to remove;
>>      5.      If it's not, repeat steps 3 and 4 until it is;
>>      6.      Press the TrackPad down into the click position and hold it, 
>> then drag one finger from the top of the TrackPad to the bottom and then 
>> release the TrackPad entirely.
>>      7.      You should here a swooshing sound indicating that the mailbox 
>> is no longer in your favourites bar. If you don't, repeat steps 1 through 7.
>> 
>> Re the checkboxes in favourites bar, these simply display the relevant 
>> mailbox. They should really be radio buttons instead of checkboxes, as only 
>> one can be active/checked at the one time. So when you press command-3, for 
>> example, the third mailbox will become checked and active. If you then 
>> navigate to the favourites bar and check the fourth mailbox, the view will 
>> change and your fourth mailbox will become active and in view. This is how 
>> you can still use the favourites bar even with more than 9 mailboxes. The 
>> first nine you can navigate to with keystrokes, the rest you need to check 
>> manually.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Nic
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