I am aware. I have troubles with the newer version of Skype. I cannot get it to 
speak messages in the text window automatically with growl. that and the 
interface is a bit more confusing. I think I will need someone sighted to help 
me with the layout when I do get around to it.

-eric

On Jun 26, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote:

> Hi.
> I'm sure you do realize that there is a newer version of Skype available?
> This version has that keystroke.
> 
> 
> On 2012-06-25, at 11:14 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
> 
>> that key assignment was not set as default and in Skype 2.8 (which I use on 
>> OS X 10.6) it doesn't even show as an assignment at all. I had to use a mute 
>> Skype script. also, I have to set Skype to auto-answer as there doesn't 
>> appear to be any way I can access the answer dialog (I know, I have tried 
>> every method available here and no joy).
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
>> On Jun 25, 2012, at 6:07 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> What's wrong with pressing command shift M to mute Skype?
>>> On 2012-06-25, at 8:39 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
>>> 
>>>> applescript is as (if not more) powerful than the scripting interface for 
>>>> jaws. since it is built-on to OS X, you can do a lot more with it than you 
>>>> could in windows with jaws scripts. Apple scripts can be set up as system 
>>>> services, application interfaces or even assigned to shortcuts. I use one 
>>>> such to allow me to mute the mic in Skype. I am not sure you can do this 
>>>> with jaws. anyway, that is my take on applescripts and OS X. at least, OS 
>>>> X is designed with accessibility in mind (of which windows is not).
>>>> 
>>>> -eric
>>>> 
>>>> On Jun 25, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Daniela Rubio wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> VoiceOver has grown very fast in the last 3 years. Wait until Next OS is 
>>>>> released, there are going to be nice surprises on accessibility. I have 
>>>>> being working with tables in pages lastly and there is always a work 
>>>>> around things. Why don't somebody, instead of creating a separated screen 
>>>>> reader, makes Apple scripts to solve some issues? I think that VoiceOver 
>>>>> y very powerful in combination with Applescript.
>>>>> 
>>>>> SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T.
>>>>> MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE.
>>>>> EN TWITTER: @macneticos
>>>>> NUESTRO BLOG EN:
>>>>> www.macneticus.blogspot.com
>>>>> Y EL PODCAST EN:`
>>>>> http://macneticos.libsyn.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> El 25/06/2012, a las 20:26, Christopher-Mark Gilland escribió:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Whole heartedly! agree.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Ray Foret Jr
>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 8:42 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: is a paid screenreader for the mac a option?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Couldn't be more wrong.  Why you want to make the Mac more like clunky 
>>>>>> crashy windows?  It's not up to the screen reader to make things more 
>>>>>> accessible with more and more scripts which you have to keep up with; 
>>>>>> rather, that's up to the app developers.  That's how it is in the Mac 
>>>>>> world.  FS make a Mac screen reader?  Are you seriously kidding me?  No 
>>>>>> way it ain't gonna happen.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> GWMicro neither.  They already have enough on their plate worying about 
>>>>>> windows type stuff.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Skype name:
>>>>>> barefootedray
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 25, 2012, at 7:08 AM, William Windels wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> After working for more than 3 years with the mac , it's my personal 
>>>>>>> opinionthat more basic programs are accessible on windows then on the 
>>>>>>> mac platform.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I find it more stable to work on the mac because of the integration of 
>>>>>>> the screenreader voiceover with the osx.
>>>>>>> The fact that the hardware is also adapted for us by the trackpad and 
>>>>>>> the function-keys with the spoken values.
>>>>>>> And of course the flexible way we can install , manage the system with 
>>>>>>> voiceover support everywhere.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> However, we can't e.g. configure dropbox with voiceover while this is 
>>>>>>> possible on windows, office programs like microsoft office and also 
>>>>>>> iWork's aren't fully accessible with lay-out tasks, in my opinion there 
>>>>>>> are several usability      issues with the browsers on the mac, some 
>>>>>>> ellements of the os , like 
>>>>>>> Tables, on websites and on numbers and pages, are very difficult to 
>>>>>>> navigate e.g. you can't search for edit-fields on websites while they 
>>>>>>> are in a table and in pages, you can't work with tables on a 
>>>>>>> comfortable way.
>>>>>>> the icon's on the status bar, can't be reached on a normal way with 
>>>>>>> voiceover...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My conclusion: a paid screenreader for the mac that makes program's 
>>>>>>> accessible with scripts (like screen readers on windows do), should be 
>>>>>>> very welcome I think.
>>>>>>> With this kind of optional screenreader, blind users should be able to 
>>>>>>> use all the equivalents on the mac of their windows favorites.  Perhaps 
>>>>>>> it should push apple  to make their screenreader better on a faster 
>>>>>>> speed.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Why such screenreader doesn't exist yet?
>>>>>>> I see 2 reasons for this:
>>>>>>> 1. Apple should not be happy with this and the screenreader of apple 
>>>>>>> should have more possibilities to integrate with the os then the 
>>>>>>> external screenreader.
>>>>>>> 2. Other communities don't see a reason to make a screenreader for the 
>>>>>>> mac while there is one built in.  
>>>>>>> If it should be the second reason, any people with accessibility 
>>>>>>> frustrations on the mac , should communicate this      to other 
>>>>>>> companies like gw micro, freedom scientific, baum...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Any opinions about this meanings should be very welcome.
>>>>>>> kind regards,
>>>>>>> William Windels
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