Hi again guys. Besides, we should remember that Apple, compared say to Windows screen reader writers, has been at this for a much shorter time. They've made incredible progress in the time they've been at it. Another little while will show some more progress.
Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Jun 25, 2012, at 1:26 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > Whole heartedly! agree. > > Chris. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ray Foret Jr > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 8:42 AM > Subject: Re: is a paid screenreader for the mac a option? > > Couldn't be more wrong. Why you want to make the Mac more like clunky crashy > windows? It's not up to the screen reader to make things more accessible > with more and more scripts which you have to keep up with; rather, that's up > to the app developers. That's how it is in the Mac world. FS make a Mac > screen reader? Are you seriously kidding me? No way it ain't gonna happen. > > GWMicro neither. They already have enough on their plate worying about > windows type stuff. > > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! > > Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! > > Skype name: > barefootedray > > On Jun 25, 2012, at 7:08 AM, William Windels wrote: > >> Hello, >> After working for more than 3 years with the mac , it's my personal >> opinionthat more basic programs are accessible on windows then on the mac >> platform. >> >> I find it more stable to work on the mac because of the integration of the >> screenreader voiceover with the osx. >> The fact that the hardware is also adapted for us by the trackpad and the >> function-keys with the spoken values. >> And of course the flexible way we can install , manage the system with >> voiceover support everywhere. >> >> However, we can't e.g. configure dropbox with voiceover while this is >> possible on windows, office programs like microsoft office and also iWork's >> aren't fully accessible with lay-out tasks, in my opinion there are several >> usability issues with the browsers on the mac, some ellements of the os , >> like >> Tables, on websites and on numbers and pages, are very difficult to navigate >> e.g. you can't search for edit-fields on websites while they are in a table >> and in pages, you can't work with tables on a comfortable way. >> the icon's on the status bar, can't be reached on a normal way with >> voiceover... >> >> My conclusion: a paid screenreader for the mac that makes program's >> accessible with scripts (like screen readers on windows do), should be very >> welcome I think. >> With this kind of optional screenreader, blind users should be able to use >> all the equivalents on the mac of their windows favorites. Perhaps it >> should push apple to make their screenreader better on a faster speed. >> >> Why such screenreader doesn't exist yet? >> I see 2 reasons for this: >> 1. Apple should not be happy with this and the screenreader of apple should >> have more possibilities to integrate with the os then the external >> screenreader. >> 2. Other communities don't see a reason to make a screenreader for the mac >> while there is one built in. >> If it should be the second reason, any people with accessibility >> frustrations on the mac , should communicate this to other companies like gw >> micro, freedom scientific, baum... >> >> Any opinions about this meanings should be very welcome. >> kind regards, >> William Windels >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.