Aa! So that's! how you do it! Coolness! Now, anyone got a keystroke for
toggling on and off the key pad for dialing touch tones?
Chris.
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From: "Matthew Campbell" <wrestling.ch...@gmail.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: is a paid screenreader for the mac a option?
Hi.
What's wrong with pressing command shift M to mute Skype?
On 2012-06-25, at 8:39 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
applescript is as (if not more) powerful than the scripting interface for
jaws. since it is built-on to OS X, you can do a lot more with it than you
could in windows with jaws scripts. Apple scripts can be set up as system
services, application interfaces or even assigned to shortcuts. I use one
such to allow me to mute the mic in Skype. I am not sure you can do this
with jaws. anyway, that is my take on applescripts and OS X. at least, OS
X is designed with accessibility in mind (of which windows is not).
-eric
On Jun 25, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Daniela Rubio wrote:
VoiceOver has grown very fast in the last 3 years. Wait until Next OS is
released, there are going to be nice surprises on accessibility. I have
being working with tables in pages lastly and there is always a work
around things. Why don't somebody, instead of creating a separated screen
reader, makes Apple scripts to solve some issues? I think that VoiceOver
y very powerful in combination with Applescript.
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El 25/06/2012, a las 20:26, Christopher-Mark Gilland escribió:
Whole heartedly! agree.
Chris.
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From: Ray Foret Jr
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: is a paid screenreader for the mac a option?
Couldn't be more wrong. Why you want to make the Mac more like clunky
crashy windows? It's not up to the screen reader to make things more
accessible with more and more scripts which you have to keep up with;
rather, that's up to the app developers. That's how it is in the Mac
world. FS make a Mac screen reader? Are you seriously kidding me? No
way it ain't gonna happen.
GWMicro neither. They already have enough on their plate worying about
windows type stuff.
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
Skype name:
barefootedray
On Jun 25, 2012, at 7:08 AM, William Windels wrote:
Hello,
After working for more than 3 years with the mac , it's my personal
opinionthat more basic programs are accessible on windows then on the
mac platform.
I find it more stable to work on the mac because of the integration of
the screenreader voiceover with the osx.
The fact that the hardware is also adapted for us by the trackpad and
the function-keys with the spoken values.
And of course the flexible way we can install , manage the system with
voiceover support everywhere.
However, we can't e.g. configure dropbox with voiceover while this is
possible on windows, office programs like microsoft office and also
iWork's aren't fully accessible with lay-out tasks, in my opinion there
are several usability issues with the browsers on the mac, some
ellements of the os , like
Tables, on websites and on numbers and pages, are very difficult to
navigate e.g. you can't search for edit-fields on websites while they
are in a table and in pages, you can't work with tables on a
comfortable way.
the icon's on the status bar, can't be reached on a normal way with
voiceover...
My conclusion: a paid screenreader for the mac that makes program's
accessible with scripts (like screen readers on windows do), should be
very welcome I think.
With this kind of optional screenreader, blind users should be able to
use all the equivalents on the mac of their windows favorites. Perhaps
it should push apple to make their screenreader better on a faster
speed.
Why such screenreader doesn't exist yet?
I see 2 reasons for this:
1. Apple should not be happy with this and the screenreader of apple
should have more possibilities to integrate with the os then the
external screenreader.
2. Other communities don't see a reason to make a screenreader for the
mac while there is one built in.
If it should be the second reason, any people with accessibility
frustrations on the mac , should communicate this to other
companies like gw micro, freedom scientific, baum...
Any opinions about this meanings should be very welcome.
kind regards,
William Windels
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