Claus, in terms of JFW, auto forms mode is the default, and I can think of no reason most users would turn it off.
I do think that you are right that much of my arguement surrounds use of the net, and although I think you're over killing the point with just how effeciant you think JAWS is verse VO, I do think that it is a degree more so. Twitter @neilbarnfather Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Claus Thøgersen Sent: 11 October 2010 12:52 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Can keyboard only navigation ever be... Hi, For some the forms mode have been a big issue, but count the times you press the return key if you do not have auto forms mode enabled. The probem with VO in it's current state is that it is much too hard to do what you often do on a webpage read the text and have a fast way to avoid unnecessary controls. Maybe a trackpad is the way to go, and I will probably get one sometime. Currently I miss the simple way of reading text on webpages, and >I have seen people suggesting to paste text into textedit for easier reading from a webpage wich suggests that there is a problem here. Even with the quick keys I cannot remember the vo name for it, it seems as if the keyboard focus does not move to the place where the quick keys leave the cursor, at least not if I use the tab key after I have used a quick key. Also VO cannot save settings specific to a website or domain, wich mean you have to remember if it is dom mode or the other mode you need to use. The same with tables you have 2 choices if it does not work as expected. There is a table command but unlike jaws you have to manually move into the table VO does not place you in the first cell wich works much better especially because VO cannot give a name to a table in the rotor or with quick keys each table on a page is only identified as a table. Maybe I will find faster routines on the Mac but currently on many of my favorite websites JFW is much much faster and I only try out the Mac to get used to VO, but it is not at all efficient! Claus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
