Hi, Vinnie and everyone else,
>
> It sure can't be changed if no one tries.
>
Yep, and when we try, want to bet we get a pretty hostile response, akin to
what the articles on ZDNet and Slashdot about LinuxChix got, or far worse?
What I find, when it comes to issues like this (and sexism as well) is that
most guys don't even recognize that there *is* a problem, and get all bent
out of shape when we dare talk about it. Not all guys, of course, not the
sensitive ones, but the majority to be sure.
> It's not that -- someone want to make some (non-adult, preferably, as
> that's my area of most annoyance) themes, make some screenshots with
> windows containing semi-naked males and see what happens?
>
> Even better, make some screenshots with windows containing something good
> and feminist...hmm...
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> because I will bet that there will be interesting outroar...
A really hostile one...
>
> am I making sense yet? It's not exactly that people are putting erotic
> pictures of females in screenshots, it's that *that* is okay, and that in
> some ways that's the most likely place you'll see a picture of a woman in
> 'mainstream linux'...if it were *just* a few individuals, it wouldn't be
> of importance...it's that it is the by-and-large
That's why I agreed with Ingrid in the first place. It's so accepted by the
guys, and they don't even realize that they are being offensive to many
women. Then, if we complain, we get the "just deal with it" or "some
women..." posts, as if that makes it alright. It doesn't.
>
> maybe if a few of us went over and just sent appropriate (polite) comments
> to the originators
I'd love to see their responses.
>
> Actually, I'm all for rampaging rants...not to mention, hers wasn't
> particularly rampaging (if you want rampaging rants, email me..I'm the
> king/queen of 'em -- I wrote 22k worth of text in under an hour on the
> various idiots I encountered in one seattle day... :) )
I think a number of us can rant with the best of them :)
>
> And it's not just segregation of themes -- the idea of adult themes having
> adult pics in their screenshots is one thing, and isn't particularly
> interesting to me right this moment...it's that the other themes do,
> too...
Exactly. If I go look at an SF theme, or a nature theme, or whatever, I
don't necessarily want adult pictures.
>
> Vinnie (I wanna cigarette! grrr)
Congratulations on quitting! Stick with it, it'll get better.
Regards,
Caity
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