> Why we want to block it? What's wrong in convincing people that your > idea is OK (or that it's not OK, for that matter)? Isn't it kind of the > whole point of discussing it?
While I agree with discussing an ongoing vote, I do not find it ok for people to be able to see the current status of an ongoing vote. This might lead to harassing people into voting just to change the outcome. Clear example: The vote score is 21-7 so I know I need another vote to pass, so I call in an acquaintance or friend to vote my way. All the democratic votes I have in mind are hidden until the vote closes, and here I am referring to any election out there, or even referendum. So now parallel to voting we get threads announcing everybody's votes. > Yay, more noise! > Or, even worse, given current tendencies, somebody submits a proposal, > couple of people say "yeah good idea", then vote happens and somehow > there's 30 "no" votes without any explanation - and without possibility > to fix it since by the time the proposer knows it the proposal is > already declined. It wouldn't be very encouraging to submit RFCs with > such process. You misunderstood me or I did not formulate that clear enough. What I meant to say is that there are already people that go in the existing opened voting thread and explain their vote, e.g. "I voted no on this because I think that won't work". I was not referring here to each one opening a thread, sorry for explaining it poorly. Stelian On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 9:44 PM, <johnc...@gmail.com> wrote: > I see absolutely no issues with the visibility of votes, or the act of > “lobbying” for someone’s vote. > > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:36 PM, Stanislav Malyshev <smalys...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> > This would block voting "lobbying" in various social channels based on >> > possible >> > outcomes, and would allow voting to run its course unaltered. The >> people >> >> Why we want to block it? What's wrong in convincing people that your >> idea is OK (or that it's not OK, for that matter)? Isn't it kind of the >> whole point of discussing it? >> >> > want to share their vote option, can still do that in the mailing list >> > where some already >> > justify their votes. >> >> So now parallel to voting we get threads announcing everybody's votes. >> Yay, more noise! >> Or, even worse, given current tendencies, somebody submits a proposal, >> couple of people say "yeah good idea", then vote happens and somehow >> there's 30 "no" votes without any explanation - and without possibility >> to fix it since by the time the proposer knows it the proposal is >> already declined. It wouldn't be very encouraging to submit RFCs with >> such process. >> >> -- >> Stas Malyshev >> smalys...@gmail.com >> >> -- >> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List >> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >> >> >
