> On Feb 28, 2022, at 8:00 PM, Dino Farinacci <farina...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> There is a base case to the recursion, i.e., where logical information meets 
>> fermions and bosons (literally). But that tells you only that base layer; it 
>> tells you nothing about the meaning of the headers you see inside, e.g., in 
>> OSI, they would be 1,2,3,4,5,6,7, but in an IP tunnel, they could be 
>> 1,2,3,3,4,5,6,7, with GRE they could be 1,2,3,2,3,4,5,6,7, etc.
> 
> An IP tunnel with protocol number 4 is indeed 1,2,3,3,4,5,6,7, but LISP (UDP 
> port 4341) UDP tunnels are 1,2,3,4,3,4,5,6,7 and GRE is 1,2,3,3,4,5,6,7 
> because it runs directly over IP with protocol number 47.
> 
> Dino

If GRE runs over IP, then it would be the same as IP-over-UDP tunnels:

1,2,3(IP), 4(GRE, since it is a protocol number of IP), 3(IP in GRE), 5,6,7, 
i.e.: 1,2,3,4,3,4,5,6,7

It’s all actually relative, though - to the left IP, GRE is layer 4. To the 
right IP, GRE is layer 2.

Joe
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