But if LISP is running in CPE routers, the enterprise has a say on which paths 
are used to get to a destination EID. So I would argue the enterprise does have 
impact.

Dino

> On Feb 28, 2022, at 12:49 PM, to...@strayalpha.com wrote:
> 
> FWIW:
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2022, at 9:46 AM, Toerless Eckert <t...@cs.fau.de> wrote:
>> 
>> I just said you can unfortunately not claim to be an Internet ISP and
>> not carry the whole bloody BGP routing table by just using LISP 
>> (unfortunately).
>> 
>> Aka: Joe touch pointed out that something like LISP (on-demand routing 
>> information
>> if thats an appropriate classification in our context here) is part of 
>> overall
>> routing architecture (which i wholeheartedly agree), but its alas not a 
>> sufficient
>> option to become an Internet ISP, and so i argued its not part of the 
>> "Internet Architecture"
>> as it is reelevant to this doc.
> 
> Agreed. This is a common misconception; LISP and ‘recursive routers’ (which 
> is what I’ve called them for two decades) hide routing from the core by 
> pushing the work to the edge of an enterprise (in an unscalable manner). But 
> they have no impact on how enterprises interconnect.
> 
> So, to me at least, they ARE part of the Internet architecture, but don’t 
> replace the need for backbone routing. They just isolate it from pockets 
> under a single enterprise’s control.
> 
> Joe

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