Hello spacecadet,

spacecadet <spaceca...@purge.sh> writes:

> On 7/2/25 1:40 PM, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Ekaitz Zarraga <eka...@elenq.tech> writes:
>> 
>>> So yeah, spacecadet, if you really want to continue to package it, we
>>> would add it to Guix, I don't think there's any policy in Guix against
>>> it (unless their documentation or so is also part of the package and
>>> includes political messages that promote any kind of
>>> discrimination).
>> 
>> This is entirely correct.  However, as a project, we have a code of
>> conduct and generally work to be inclusive, which is apparently the
>> exact opposite of what this people are doing.
>> 
>> I think we can’t ignore it or we’d be sending the wrong signal.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ludo’.
>
>
> thanks Ekaitz and Ludo, I knew there was controversy around this package 
> before I even started working on this, but I was hoping it would just not 
> appear if I ignored it, stupid idea.

I disagree, I think it is a great idea to not give attention to the
authors of the software. Using software is about the software, not about
its authors.
By having this whole thread, there is so much attention brought to them
and their views. If it was just packaged as any other software, without
talking about who made that software, there would be no attention given
to their views. If Guix project doesn't care who writes software that is
being packaged, it's easy to justify that Guix is not advocating or
opposing any views of the authors of the software. By cherry picking
what software to use based on the authors starts sending that message
even for packages that are already in Guix now, and all packages that
will be in it.

So I would like to thank you for not bringing it up yourself. And
personally it pains me to see such a thread in guix-devel list.

Rutherther

> would a "the views of the package maintainers don't reflect the views of the 
> project" disclaimer be necessary? I don't like how much free (as in freedom) 
> software projects care about optics these days, or how some projects use 
> social pressure to strongarm political agendas. the xlibre developers seem to 
> be working in opposition to that, so even if I don't agree with any specific 
> opinions of any particular parties involved, I like that.
>
> anyways, the software. nixpkgs ships overlays (would be nice, eh?), so using 
> them as an example it seems reasonable to ship something similar in guix, but 
> there aren't any existing cases yet. the only uses of package-input-rewriting 
> in the repo are for compatibility with old software. I did my best to wrap it 
> all up, but at the end of the day it still feels like a bit of a bodge.
> unless the day comes and everyone says let's replace xorg with xlibre, just 
> thought it was an important note to bring up.

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