Hello Samuel,

On 2025-07-02 14:08, Samuel Christie wrote:

I'm not sure I understand the reactions to the Xlibre project.

The quote from their website is:

This is an independent project, not at all affiliated with BigTech or any of their subsidiaries or tax evasion tools, nor any political activists groups, state actors, etc. It's explicitly free of any "DEI" or similar discriminatory policies. Anybody who's treating others nicely is welcomed.

It doesn't matter which country you're coming from, your political views, your race, your sex, your age, your food menu, whether you wear boots or heels, whether you're furry or fairy, Conan or McKay, comic character, a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri, or just a boring average person. Anybody who's interested in bringing X forward is welcome.

That sounds inclusive to me, even if it does speak against "DEI" as a label.


The second link on DDG includes a The Register article, which tries to provide an overview:
https://www.theregister.com/2025/06/24/mixed_news_for_x11/

It includes a link to this fediverse post:
https://circumstances.run/@mawhrin/114682302951770021

The bullet points include:
```
* literal german neonazis (lead of the project enrico weigelt) [web.archive.org],
*    wayland-is-a-conspiracy nuts [gist.github.com],
*    systemd-is-a-conspiracy weirdos [github.com],
* various racist and white supremacist gobshites who feel slighted when they're not allowed the n-word with the hard r,
*    transphobes [github.com],
*    homophobes,
*    misogynists,
* russian programmers who might be any of the above, but are also very vocally unhappy about western sanctions (the unmentioned part is the reason: russian invasion of ukraine)
```

I could respond to the positions contained in the first of those citations (either nuanced or through invective) Id prefer this community to not get trapped in their playbook:
https://web.archive.org/web/20190404153507/https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20181010.191925.ee1331b6.en.html

Jul 2, 2025 09:47:20 Ludovic Courtès <l...@gnu.org>:

Hello,

Ekaitz Zarraga <eka...@elenq.tech> writes:

So yeah, spacecadet, if you really want to continue to package it, we
would add it to Guix, I don't think there's any policy in Guix against
it (unless their documentation or so is also part of the package and
includes political messages that promote any kind of
discrimination).
This is entirely correct.  However, as a project, we have a code of
conduct and generally work to be inclusive, which is apparently the
exact opposite of what this people are doing.

I think we can't ignore it or we'd be sending the wrong signal.

Thanks,
Ludo'.

I really hate that this kind of shit is a distraction for me and Im many degrees removed.

Bleurgh, it must be fucking horrible fearing that intolerance may involve you being pushed out of Overton's Window.


Jonathan

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