Hi All,

Thank you for your patience. Here are the two proposal drafts:

   - Hamilton
   
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1i26N0hnX82uJNfd5Xx2hpmV3kBwUpZ2LL0Vz-JXDeD0/edit?usp=sharing>
   - Burr
   
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XOzebCOH8Ub9cLthS7sFx57L8Kqdw5e5bJJfcDDy3iQ/edit?usp=sharing>


@Kevin, PJ, & Ayush, please comment. Happy to address anything that's
missing / unclear. If things look good, happy to move to the confluence
wiki.

Cheers,

Stefan

On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 12:39 PM Stefan Krawczyk <stefan.krawc...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hey sorry, this is on me. I'm splitting it into two proposals. ETA for it
> to be ready is next week. Thanks 🙏
>
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2025, 5:54 AM Kevin Ratnasekera <djkevincr1...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Are we good to start discussion thread on incubator proposal?
>>
>> Regards
>> Kevin
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 1:40 AM Stefan Krawczyk <
>> stefan.krawc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> @Ayush and @PJ could I propose a 15 minute call to chat about your
>>> comments
>>> please?  I think a higher bandwidth medium will save us some back and
>>> forth
>>> on the topic. If so, please email me directly with your schedules and
>>> I'll
>>> coordinate a time - else will put comments in the doc. Thanks in advance
>>> for your time.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Stefan
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 5:59 PM Stefan Krawczyk <
>>> stefan.krawc...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi Everyone,
>>> >
>>> > Apologies for the delay here (🤷‍♂️ *life *🤷‍♂️).
>>> >
>>> > @PJ, Ayush, and Kevin - thank you for the offer of mentoring. I have
>>> > shared this raw draft google doc
>>> > <
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12NdPEVJg993INoZeurMl6PqG4AX_qG9e-jm_3fxay8k/edit?usp=sharing
>>> >
>>> > with you that lays out the proposal. I thought this might be the
>>> simplest
>>> > way to work on the proposal. If anyone else wants access please just
>>> > request it.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks in advance.
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> >
>>> > Stefan
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Jan 5, 2025 at 2:55 AM PJ Fanning <fannin...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Hi Stefan.
>>> >>
>>> >> For people who agree to join the PPMC for Hamilton/Burr, they will
>>> >> need to sign ASF iCLAs anyway.
>>> >>
>>> >> So I don't think they'll need to agree to relicense as well.
>>> >>
>>> >> It's the people who don't agree to join the PPMC that we will have to
>>> >> look into asking to still sign the ASF iCLA or if that is unacceptable
>>> >> to them, a declaration like the one that you suggest may be an
>>> >> acceptable substitute.
>>> >>
>>> >> If we are still left with some code where the contributor has not
>>> >> signed an iCLA or agreed to the relicense, then we could leave that
>>> >> code as BSD licensed. It makes reviewing code and releases a bit
>>> >> harder when some code is licensed as Apache and some other code is
>>> >> BSD.
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards,
>>> >> PJ
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 at 07:11, Stefan Krawczyk <
>>> stefan.krawc...@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Great, thank you.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I believe my *more immediate* tasks then are:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > 1. Identify core committers outside of DAGWorks Inc. and get ICLAs.
>>> >> > 2. Get them to agree to a relicense. Could it be as simple as
>>> getting
>>> >> them
>>> >> > to write something like the following?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > > *Acknowledgment Statement*
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > I, [Your Full Name], hereby agree to relicense my contributions
>>> to the
>>> >> > > Burr project under the Apache License, Version 2.0. I confirm
>>> that my
>>> >> > > contributions to the project were original and authored by me,
>>> and I
>>> >> grant
>>> >> > > permission to relicense them as outlined.
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > Signed,
>>> >> > > [Your Name] [date]
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > 3. Work on draft
>>> >> > <
>>> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html#proposal-template>
>>> >> > proposal
>>> >> > <
>>> >>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/New+Podling+Proposal
>>> >> >
>>> >> > (I'm
>>> >> > following this <https://incubator.apache.org/cookbook/>) for each
>>> of
>>> >> > Hamiton and Burr. Then once I have that discuss whether one or two
>>> >> > committees makes the most sense. Question: it mentions a wiki, but I
>>> >> don't
>>> >> > see how I can create an account? Otherwise I can start it in a
>>> google
>>> >> doc...
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Is there anything else I should be doing in the near term?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Thank you for the pointers thus far.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Cheers,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Stefan
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Fri, Jan 3, 2025 at 2:32 PM Justin Mclean <
>>> jus...@classsoftware.com>
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > > Hi,
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > > Don’t you mean SGA (and not CCLA)?
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > We would also require an SGA. DAGWorks may want to submit a CCLA,
>>> but
>>> >> you
>>> >> > > are correct in that we don’t require one.
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > Kind Regards,
>>> >> > > Justin
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >
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