On 07/22/2015 01:36 AM, Chris Douglas wrote: > Daniel- > This has been discussed recently in graduations for Tez [1], Drill > [2], and other projects whose continued incubation serves no purpose.
If by this you mean the Incubator has taught the podling what it needs to know, and the podling is following the best practices of the Apache Way, then we are in full agreement. I don't see the need to single me out here, I am not disagreeing with that. I am saying that we have a published policy which states that a podling SHALL "demonstrate an active and diverse development community". Some people are having concerns about this particular item, some are saying it's irrelevant. I don't think it's irrelevant when it is in our policy. If the IPMC feels this policy is too vague or outright wrong, then we should have a discussion about what we're going to do about that, and then act on it. But as it stand, the policy states that for a project to be considered for graduation, it shall demonstrate diversity, and people are in their right to raise that as a concern, as it is _in the policy_, regardless of what a segment of the IPMC have decided in other graduation discussions or votes. There was a discussion 3 years ago about this, but it did not result in a change in our published policy. The policy is still there. If we are interested in changing that policy, we should agree on a change in a discussion with that as the main topic, and then _write it down_. We should not have to refer to discussions where this _may have come up off-topic or as a side note_, that is not fair to people trying to find out what our practices are. With regards, Daniel. > They've completed a curriculum that clears their IP and introduces > them to the ASF's infrastructure, procedures, and culture. The project > must be open, and not threatened by the challenges that open > development poses. We encourage transparency by creating a climate for > projects to report honestly about diversity, rather than incentivizing > corruption of that metric. > > As this thread demonstrates, the IPMC cannot do more. -C > > P.S. Please fix your quoting, or delete the tail of the message as you reply. > > [1] http://s.apache.org/uT4 > [2] http://s.apache.org/m2u > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
