On 2015-07-22 01:17, Dmitriy Setrakyan wrote:
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org> wrote:
Nitpicking time.
Your supposedly vendor-neutral web site says:
"GridGain Community Edition is a binary build of Apache Ignite created
by GridGain, which includes optional LGPL dependencies, such as
Hibernate L2 cache integration and Geospatial Indexing. It benefits from
continued testing by GridGain engineers and may contain latest bug fixes
and features that will be included into the future official Apache
Ignite releases."
- I consider this very biased towards a single company (especially
considering it is the _only_ 3rd party listed, and you do _not_ specify
how other 3rd parties may get listed on the page).
Good point. I have added text specifying how other companies can provide
their community editions for Apache Ignite.
Excellent!
You start off by saying you don't endorse it, and then you praise it - it's
either or.
We started out by providing just a blank link, but it became very confusing
to our users, and we allowed GridGain to add a brief description.
I have just updated the text of the description to strip it out of anything
other than facts. I don't think it conflicts with Ignite not officially
endorsing this edition.
Thanks :)
I still find it a bit problematic that the text infers that GridGain's
3rd party binary is somehow "potentially upstream" from Apache Ignite,
but I will defer to Shane to decide whether that is allowed or not.
Your web site also lists the organizational affiliation of PMC members.
While this may be useful internally in the ASF, I fail to see why this
is mentioned on the web site. This should have no relevance to the
project whatsoever.
Although I see your point, I don't think it's harmful one way or another.
All the community members voluntarily and willingly provided their company
affiliation.
To be clear, I am not about to veto a graduation vote because of company
affiliations, I just don't think it belongs on the page.
If/when you graduate, the PMC has every right to decide this for
themselves, I believe.
You point to gridgain.org for several of your documentation segments,
this is also not acceptable.
This is not on purpose. The documentation was initially migrated from
GridGain and some old links might have sneaked in.
I cannot find any places with gridgain.org links you are referencing. Can
you please point those out, so I can quickly fix them?
http://ignite.incubator.apache.org/features/datagrid.html
http://ignite.incubator.apache.org/features/igniterdd.html
etc.
I think you should just grep for it in your features directory, there
may be more pages that refer to it.
With regards,
Daniel
I would very much like to see this rectified before we get to an actual
vote, or I will possibly be casting a -1.
With regards,
Daniel.
On 07/21/2015 10:48 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote:
On 07/21/2015 10:39 PM, Ted Dunning wrote:
Present time diversity or lack of same is not a bar to graduation.
So we should just scrap the bit in the Incubator policy that says "A
major criterion for graduation is to have developed an open and diverse
meritocratic community."?
I think not.
What is important is that the committers and PMC of the new project
understand how to make releases and are building community.
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Thanks, Konstantin, for the enlighting quote. And the link leading to
nowhere.
If we take away the names of the mentors from the list (Branko, Roman
and
yours) as well as those in other projects (Evans) from the list of
intended
project members, the situation even grows worse. Then the number grows
to
77%. That doesn't look promising regarding independence, and neither
regarding healthiness.
Best regards,
Pierre Smits
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On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <c...@apache.org>
wrote:
The so-called diversity requirement has been discussed on this list
for a
number of times. Most recent is the graduation of Flume project (back
in
2012). Here's a quote from that thread (kudos to Roy; for those who
want
to look it up in the archives MessageId is
73db2e64-87d5-4dd5-91fb-403464895...@gbiv.com):
[quote]
There is no diversity requirement at the ASF. There is a behavior
requirement for graduation and a behavior requirement for TLPs.
We must not confuse the two. If the Incubator says that there is a
diversity requirement for graduation, ignore it (or at least figure
out what the docs were supposed to say and then do that).
I'd urge folks to fix the docs, but I know where that leads ...
and I have no cycles to spare.
A diversity requirement would mean that a person's employment
status impacts their ability to participate here. IOW, it would
create a perverse incentive for them not to be employed.
[/quote]
Regards,
Cos
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 05:55PM, Pierre Smits wrote:
It seems that 63% of the podling's PMC is affiliated to 1
organisation
(Gridgrain).
Have sufficient grounds been covered to ensure diversity and
independece?
Best regards,
Pierre Smits
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Dmitriy Setrakyan <
dsetrak...@apache.org>
wrote:
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 4:08 AM, amareshwarisr . <
amareshw...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Seems the DESCRIPTION_AND_SCOPE of the project is set to " the
automated
and managed flow of information between systems."
I dont see any such on project website -
http://ignite.incubator.apache.org/
Looks like a copy from NIFI's graduation discussion -
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201506.mbox/%3CCALJK9a4PD%2B3qGGQbbHHyLfY8Ut9BP9VyEDwtnZDSWjpMKiwk9w%40mail.gmail.com%3E
.
You might want to correct it.
Yup, copy-n-paste never works :) Corrected below.
Correct me if description is fine and I'm wrong in understanding
the
description
Thanks
Amareshwari
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 5:06 AM, Dmitriy Setrakyan <
dsetrak...@apache.org>
wrote:
Hello Apache Incubator,
At the suggestion of our mentors the Ignite community established
consensus
and held a successful vote with 14 +1 votes in favor of proposing
graduation to TLP.
Vote thread:
http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/VOTE-Graduate-Apache-Ignite-from-Incubation-td1539.html
Summary of the vote results:
+1 (non-binding) = 14
1. Yakov Zhdanov (PMC)
2. Gianfranco Murador (PMC)
3. Ira Vasilinets (PMC)
4. Nikolai Tichinov (PMC)
5. Semyon Boikov (PMC)
6. Sergi Vladykin (PMC)
7. Alexey Goncharuk (PMC)
8. Ognen Duzlevski (PMC)
9. Valentin Kulichenko (PMC)
10. Nikita Ivanov (PMC)
11. Dmitriy Setrakyan (PMC)
12. Andrey Novikov (Committer)
13. Alexey Kuznetsov (Committer)
14. Milap Wadwa
We’d like to initiate this discussion/proposal to establish a
consensus
within the incubator and if appropriate will initiate a vote.
Below is our proposed resolution:
Thank you
Dmitriy Setrakyan(on behalf of the Apache Ignite PPMC)
SUBJECT: Establish the Apache Ignite TLP
WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
the public, related to the automated and managed flow of
information between systems.
Should be:
---------
"related to delivering an In-Memory Data Fabric - a
high-performance,
integrated and distributed in-memory platform for computing and
transacting
on large-scale data sets in real-time"
--------
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Ignite Project",
be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
Foundation; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Apache Ignite Project be and hereby is
responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
related to the automated and managed flow of information
between systems and be it further
RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Ignite"
be
and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
of the Apache Ignite Project, and to have primary
responsibility
for management of the projects within the scope of
responsibility of the Apache Ignite Project; and be it
further
RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
Apache Ignite Project:
Semyon Boikov (sboi...@apache.org)
Konstantin Boudnik (c...@apache.org)
Branko Čibej (br...@apache.org)
Ognen Duzlevski (mak...@apache.org)
Sergey Evdokimov (sevdoki...@apache.org)
Alexey Goncharuk (agoncha...@apache.org)
Nikita Ivanov (nivano...@apache.org)
Sergey Khisamov (s...@apache.org)
Valentin Kulichenko (vkuliche...@apache.org)
Alexey Kuznetsov (akuznet...@apache.org)
Gianfranco Murador (mura...@apache.org)
Andrey Novikov (anovi...@apache.org)
Vladimir Ozerov (voze...@apache.org)
Dmitriy Setrakyan (dsetrak...@apache.org)
Roman Shaposhnik (r...@apache.org)
Ilya Sterin (iste...@apache.org)
Nikolai Tikhonov (ntikho...@apache.org)
Irina Vasilinets (ivasilin...@apache.org)
Anton Vinogradov (a...@apache.org)
Sergey Vladykin (svlady...@apache.org)
Evans Ye (evan...@apache.org)
Yakov Zhdanov (yzhda...@apache.org)
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that
Dmitriy Setrakyan be appointed to the office of Vice
President,
Apache Ignite, to serve in accordance with and subject to the
direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
disqualification, or until a successor is appointed;
and be it further
RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Ignite PMC be and hereby is
tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
encourage open development and increased participation in the
Apache Ignite Project; and be it further
RESOLVED, that the Apache Ignite Project be and hereby
is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the
Apache
Incubator Ignite podling; and be it further
RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
Incubator Ignite podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
Project are hereafter discharged.
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