On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 10:30PM, Pierre Smits wrote:
> Thanks, Konstantin, for the enlighting quote. And the link leading to
> nowhere.
Or, I didn't know that unique message Id isn't enough nowadays. Here's the
easier link for your convenience ;)
http://markmail.org/message/5l5hsygvntcx5fqb
with the link to the overarching thread
http://apache.markmail.org/message/5l5hsygvntcx5fqb?q=flume+diversity+list:org%2Eapache%2Eincubator%2Egeneral+from:+%22Roy%22
Cos
> If we take away the names of the mentors from the list (Branko, Roman and
> yours) as well as those in other projects (Evans) from the list of intended
> project members, the situation even grows worse. Then the number grows to
> 77%. That doesn't look promising regarding independence, and neither
> regarding healthiness.
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> Pierre Smits
>
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> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <c...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > The so-called diversity requirement has been discussed on this list for a
> > number of times. Most recent is the graduation of Flume project (back in
> > 2012). Here's a quote from that thread (kudos to Roy; for those who want
> > to look it up in the archives MessageId is
> > 73db2e64-87d5-4dd5-91fb-403464895...@gbiv.com):
> >
> > [quote]
> > There is no diversity requirement at the ASF. There is a behavior
> > requirement for graduation and a behavior requirement for TLPs.
> > We must not confuse the two. If the Incubator says that there is a
> > diversity requirement for graduation, ignore it (or at least figure
> > out what the docs were supposed to say and then do that).
> > I'd urge folks to fix the docs, but I know where that leads ...
> > and I have no cycles to spare.
> >
> > A diversity requirement would mean that a person's employment
> > status impacts their ability to participate here. IOW, it would
> > create a perverse incentive for them not to be employed.
> > [/quote]
> >
> > Regards,
> > Cos
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 05:55PM, Pierre Smits wrote:
> > > It seems that 63% of the podling's PMC is affiliated to 1 organisation
> > > (Gridgrain).
> > >
> > > Have sufficient grounds been covered to ensure diversity and independece?
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Pierre Smits
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Dmitriy Setrakyan <
> > dsetrak...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 4:08 AM, amareshwarisr . <
> > amareshw...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Seems the DESCRIPTION_AND_SCOPE of the project is set to " the
> > automated
> > > > > and managed flow of information between systems."
> > > > >
> > > > > I dont see any such on project website -
> > > > > http://ignite.incubator.apache.org/
> > > > > Looks like a copy from NIFI's graduation discussion -
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201506.mbox/%3CCALJK9a4PD%2B3qGGQbbHHyLfY8Ut9BP9VyEDwtnZDSWjpMKiwk9w%40mail.gmail.com%3E
> > > > > .
> > > > > You might want to correct it.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yup, copy-n-paste never works :) Corrected below.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Correct me if description is fine and I'm wrong in understanding the
> > > > > description
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Amareshwari
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 5:06 AM, Dmitriy Setrakyan <
> > > > dsetrak...@apache.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello Apache Incubator,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At the suggestion of our mentors the Ignite community established
> > > > > consensus
> > > > > > and held a successful vote with 14 +1 votes in favor of proposing
> > > > > > graduation to TLP.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Vote thread:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/VOTE-Graduate-Apache-Ignite-from-Incubation-td1539.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Summary of the vote results:
> > > > > > +1 (non-binding) = 14
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. Yakov Zhdanov (PMC)
> > > > > > 2. Gianfranco Murador (PMC)
> > > > > > 3. Ira Vasilinets (PMC)
> > > > > > 4. Nikolai Tichinov (PMC)
> > > > > > 5. Semyon Boikov (PMC)
> > > > > > 6. Sergi Vladykin (PMC)
> > > > > > 7. Alexey Goncharuk (PMC)
> > > > > > 8. Ognen Duzlevski (PMC)
> > > > > > 9. Valentin Kulichenko (PMC)
> > > > > > 10. Nikita Ivanov (PMC)
> > > > > > 11. Dmitriy Setrakyan (PMC)
> > > > > > 12. Andrey Novikov (Committer)
> > > > > > 13. Alexey Kuznetsov (Committer)
> > > > > > 14. Milap Wadwa
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We’d like to initiate this discussion/proposal to establish a
> > consensus
> > > > > > within the incubator and if appropriate will initiate a vote.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Below is our proposed resolution:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you
> > > > > > Dmitriy Setrakyan(on behalf of the Apache Ignite PPMC)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > SUBJECT: Establish the Apache Ignite TLP
> > > > > >
> > > > > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> > > > > > interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> > > > > > Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> > > > > > Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> > > > > > open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
> > > > > > the public, related to the automated and managed flow of
> > > > > > information between systems.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Should be:
> > > >
> > > > ---------
> > > > "related to delivering an In-Memory Data Fabric - a high-performance,
> > > > integrated and distributed in-memory platform for computing and
> > transacting
> > > > on large-scale data sets in real-time"
> > > > --------
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> > > > > > Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Ignite Project",
> > > > > > be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> > > > > > Foundation; and be it further
> > > > > >
> > > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Ignite Project be and hereby is
> > > > > > responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> > > > > > related to the automated and managed flow of information
> > > > > > between systems and be it further
> > > > > >
> > > > > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Ignite" be
> > > > > > and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> > > > > > serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> > > > > > of the Apache Ignite Project, and to have primary
> > responsibility
> > > > > > for management of the projects within the scope of
> > > > > > responsibility of the Apache Ignite Project; and be it further
> > > > > >
> > > > > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> > > > > > hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> > > > > > Apache Ignite Project:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Semyon Boikov (sboi...@apache.org)
> > > > > > Konstantin Boudnik (c...@apache.org)
> > > > > > Branko Čibej (br...@apache.org)
> > > > > > Ognen Duzlevski (mak...@apache.org)
> > > > > > Sergey Evdokimov (sevdoki...@apache.org)
> > > > > > Alexey Goncharuk (agoncha...@apache.org)
> > > > > > Nikita Ivanov (nivano...@apache.org)
> > > > > > Sergey Khisamov (s...@apache.org)
> > > > > > Valentin Kulichenko (vkuliche...@apache.org)
> > > > > > Alexey Kuznetsov (akuznet...@apache.org)
> > > > > > Gianfranco Murador (mura...@apache.org)
> > > > > > Andrey Novikov (anovi...@apache.org)
> > > > > > Vladimir Ozerov (voze...@apache.org)
> > > > > > Dmitriy Setrakyan (dsetrak...@apache.org)
> > > > > > Roman Shaposhnik (r...@apache.org)
> > > > > > Ilya Sterin (iste...@apache.org)
> > > > > > Nikolai Tikhonov (ntikho...@apache.org)
> > > > > > Irina Vasilinets (ivasilin...@apache.org)
> > > > > > Anton Vinogradov (a...@apache.org)
> > > > > > Sergey Vladykin (svlady...@apache.org)
> > > > > > Evans Ye (evan...@apache.org)
> > > > > > Yakov Zhdanov (yzhda...@apache.org)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that
> > > > > > Dmitriy Setrakyan be appointed to the office of Vice President,
> > > > > > Apache Ignite, to serve in accordance with and subject to the
> > > > > > direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
> > > > > > Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> > > > > > disqualification, or until a successor is appointed;
> > > > > > and be it further
> > > > > >
> > > > > > RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Ignite PMC be and hereby is
> > > > > > tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> > > > > > encourage open development and increased participation in the
> > > > > > Apache Ignite Project; and be it further
> > > > > >
> > > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Ignite Project be and hereby
> > > > > > is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> > > > > > Incubator Ignite podling; and be it further
> > > > > >
> > > > > > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> > > > > > Incubator Ignite podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> > > > > > Project are hereafter discharged.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
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