Just a note that with a version of android that includes explore by touch,
you can easily enough turn talkback and explore by touch on and off using
the talkback global context menu - standard gesture of drag down and then
swipe right invokes it, and then moving around screen, generally on top left
is suspend talkback, and the default reactivation then occurs after you lock
and unlock screen again, but, you can also change that setting in talkback
settings.
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dakotah Rickard" <[email protected]>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 03:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any Accessible Android Games
Ok. I'm grabbing onto this topic a bit late, but here goes.
I have used an iPhone 5 for a year now, and it's changed my life. I
grabbed up a cheap crappy Android device at the beginning of April
this year, but it ran I think Android 2.6, so it wasn't very fun.
Still, finding that I could actually use it gave me hope. About two
months ago, I bought a Nexus 7 FHD and have been slowly gaining in
both proficiency and respect for the Android platform.
Here's my take on the main issue, games, with some sub-issues below.
First, there's a game, Star Traders, which I really like. It's
available on both iOS and Android, though there are some slight
differences. The Android version does some odd stuff, but it's
useable. I haven't figured out how to make the ChoiceOfGames games
work, and I've tried several of them. I can't read the pages and I
can't seem to find the radio buttons, but if some people say they
work, they work.
As for other games, the big problem is that the ExploreByTouch feature
of Android was added in 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich, and some games were
developed before that, so you either have to turn off Explore By Touch
or suspend Talkback, Android's native screen reader. IOS offers the
triple click home command to enable and disable Voiceover, but Google
hasn't implemented anything like that for Talkback, so you have to do
a bit of fiddling to make it work.
Finally, as for development, you're absolutely right. It is very
possible to make accessible apps on Android; it's just that most
people don't really bother. It can even be free to make said apps,
which is great. Why throw down cash if you don't have to.
However, to be fair to the iPhone, there are other options to buying a
Mac and learning Objective C. The easiest is using a port of C#, a
programming language with which you are either familiar or can easily
become familiar, as it's rather like Java. There are other options,
though they escape me for now. The port of C# does cost money, but
it's $400 or $450, I think, rather than thousands.
Also, there's the pickiness of Apple's App store, and the developers'
program charges, but it's a question. There are plenty of people using
Android devices successfully, as it's now a much more accessible
platform than it was, but the majority still use Apple's product
lines. That means that you'd maximize profits, even given the
additional costs, by going the iOS route. Still, if you go with
Android, you'll be putting little money down, eaning you can charge
less and still profit.
In my humble opinion, the best solution would be play the fence, as
I'm doing. Essentially, if you can afford to do so, buy both.
finally, some cautionary advice that you probably already know.
The most wonderful thing about Android is that it's got a lot of open
source elements, though some of the elements most crucial to Android
are being swallowed up by Google and made closed source. Android
transitions smoothly between various apps providing various functions,
whereas Apple has each app sandboxed, meaning that even a simple thing
like sending an email with an attachment is pretty nearly impossible.
However, Android is highly fragmented. Many, many people still use
older devices (before 4.0) with crappy accessibility and poor support.
The only devices which are guaranteed an update are Nexus devices, and
even these aren't sure things, as the recent drop of the Galaxy Nexus
shows.
The safest bet, in my opinion, is to buy an iPhone and a Nexus tablet,
as I've done. First and foremost, they are both at the beginning of
their current tech cycles, and secondarily, this allows you to have
the portability of the iPhone for day to day tasks like calling and
navigation, but it allows you to have a dedicated amusement device in
the Nexus. Given that a new 16 GB nexus is $230 or so, and given that
a new 16 GB iPhone 5s is $200 or so on contract, you're throwing down
a little under $500 for the devices and gaining a foothold on both
markets.
Still, whatever choice you make, I'm sure that great things are to come.
I wish you luck.
On 11/10/13, Charles Rivard <[email protected]> wrote:
Actually, this method is, I suppose, a way for us to "drag and drop". I
would like to be able to do it in apps such as a chess app. Double tap
and
hold the piece you want, slide to the square you want to move to, and
release.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Cara Quinn" <[email protected]>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 3:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any Accessible Android Games
Hi Dark, yes, I agree that moving icons can be a bit fiddly, for different
reasons though. :)
There is a heck of a delay at this point before the icon actually switches
pages. I find this really obnoxious and wish they'd switch it back to
something shorter like they used to have it. :)
Not sure exactly how you've been working with icons previously, but give
this a try:
When you double tap and hold on the icon, just touch the screen without
exerting a whole lot of pressure on the display. I find that moving icons
this way is a whole lot easier. I think many people find it common to put
a
bit more pressure on their finger while doing this, than is necessary.
As I said, not sure if you're doing this or not, but if you are, you might
give the above a go and see what it does for you.
Find yourself double tapping and holding more gently on the icon and
notice
that it moves much more smoothly and easily as you touch it. I think you
will find easily that you will be able to move icons freely with way less
effort than you have before.
Once you find yourself easily moving icons like this, you will find that
it
is second nature to you.
Have a lovely day and talk with you soon!…
Smiles,
Cara :)
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On Nov 9, 2013, at 11:55 PM, dark <[email protected]> wrote:
Funny cara, it seemed that however much I tried I couldn't get the dam
thing
to switch pages at all.I'd take it to the edge of the page and then
nothing
would happen, it'd just sit there on the first page and not switch to the
second. This is why I sort of just assumed the default icons stayed on the
first page. I've tried this in ios 6 and ios 7, and got the same result
both
times.
As I said I do admit I don't find the icon moving process on Ios easy at
all, moving papasangre 2 into my somethinelse folder was okay, but
sometimes
I've had icons chasing all over the place!
BEware the Grue!
dark.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Cara Quinn" <[email protected]>
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Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 4:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any Accessible Android Games
Dark, you can move the GameCenter icon anywhere you like on any page.
You move it just like any other icon.
Smiles,
Cara :)
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On Nov 9, 2013, at 4:25 PM, dark <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Charlse
I know the Iphone has the ability to group aps into folders, I just find
the process of dragging an iCon around the screen until I find what I
want
it to hit to be a pest, even if I take note of the previous iCon's grid
position it still doesn't seem that smooth, especially compared to
windows
where I just copy stuff from one folder to another with a press of very
few buttons.
I also don't like the way I can't move Icons like the Gamecenter onto
other pages. Again in Windows (or in Xp anyway), creating a shortcut and
banging it where I wanted would be easy to do.
These are some of the things about the Iphone which I do not like, for
all
there are many things I do like.
Beware the Grue!
Dark.
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