While I think that AI could soon handle the managerial part of a CEO's job, they may have trouble playing golf. It might not matter if the stock is going up. I am very ignorant about what CEO's do 'though.
On Fri, Mar 31, 2023, 5:33 PM Grant Holland <grant.holland...@gmail.com> wrote: > So what do you think? Are CEOs, CFOs etc. and corporate board members at > any medium or short-term risk of losing their jobs to machine learning? I > like to hear some opinions on this. > > Thx, > Grant > > > On Mar 31, 2023, at 1:21 PM, Gary Schiltz <g...@naturesvisualarts.com> > wrote: > > > > Arrrr... looking more closely, Grant wrote CxO not QxO. Google quickly > > enlightened me on the former. Sorry for the noise. > > > > On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 2:19 PM Gary Schiltz <g...@naturesvisualarts.com> > wrote: > >> > >> I must admit my ignorance here, not aided in the least by a cursory > >> Google search: What is QxO? > >> > >> On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 10:59 AM Grant Holland > >> <grant.holland...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Frank, > >>> > >>> I'm wondering why no-one seems to raise the specter that AI could > start replacing management personnel. And I’m including CxO’s here; because > I’m not convinced that CxO-ing is rocket science or quantum mechanics. > Think of the billions saved. After all, if machine learning cannot get good > at making better decisions than humans, and constantly improving at it, I > would be very surprised. > >>> > >>> Grant > >>> > >>> On Mar 30, 2023, at 8:58 AM, Frank Wimberly <wimber...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Not particularly relevant to your main point but Raj Reddy, close > colleague of Newell and Simon, once said, "It is easier use AI to replace a > college professor than a bulldozer operator" or words tho that effect. > >>> > >>> Frank > >>> > >>> --- > >>> Frank C. Wimberly > >>> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > >>> Santa Fe, NM 87505 > >>> > >>> 505 670-9918 > >>> Santa Fe, NM > >>> > >>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2023, 8:50 AM Prof David West <profw...@fastmail.fm> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> The "AI Pause" made national TV news yesterday (long after those on > this list noted and reacted to it) and that made me revisit a theme I have > thought about since Newell, Simon, and Shaw created Logic Theorist. > >>>> > >>>> Advocates take a caricature (perhaps too strong a word) of human > intelligence, write a program to emulate it and declare the program > "intelligent." > >>>> > >>>> The original conceit: true intelligence was the kind of thinking > exhibited by college professors and scientists. Almost trivial to emulate > (Newell and Simon programmed Logic Theorist on 3x5 cards before Shaw was > able to implement on a computer). > >>>> > >>>> Maybe reading—correctly converting text to sound, like a child—was > more indicative of human intelligence, and Sejnowski created NetTalk. that, > somewhat eerily, produced discoveries of sounds, and errors, and achieved > near perfect ability to "read." Listen to the tapes sometime and contrast > them with tapes of a human child learning to read. Of course, comprehension > of what was read did not make the cut. > >>>> > >>>> State of the art improved dramatically and the caricatures of human > intelligence are more sophisticated and the achievements of the programs > more interesting. > >>>> > >>>> But, it seems to me there is still a critical gap. We can program an > AI (or let one learn) to fly a commercial jet as well or better than a > human pilot—BUT, could even the best of of breed of such an AI pull a > Shullenberger and land on the Hudson River? > >>>> > >>>> Another factor behind the "hysteria" (sorry for the sexism) over AIs > causing massive unemployment is a corollary to the caricaturization of > human intelligence. Since the Industrial Revolution, and certainly since > the age of Taylorism and the rise of automation; work itself has been > dehumanizing. > >>>> > >>>> If you define human work in terms of what can be done by a computer > then it is tautological to claim an AI is intelligent because it can > perform human work. > >>>> > >>>> I was contemplating ChatAIs and quickly realized that my > profession—college professor—was one at immense risk of replacement. I > would bet good money that a ChatAI could produce, and maybe deliver, > lectures far better than any I created in 30 years teaching. And probably > most, if not all, of the presentations I made at professional conferences > over the years. > >>>> > >>>> I am still vain enough to think that some of the papers and books I > have written are beyond an AI, and certain that no AI could do as well in > spontaneious Q&A after a presentation than I. > >>>> > >>>> Bottom line, I still believe that AI can and does equate to HI, only > when some aspect of HI is ommitted from the equation. This is not > essentialism, but analogous to the digitization of a sine wave, no matter > the finite sampling rate, there is always some missing information. > >>>> > >>>> davew > >>>> > >>>> -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . > >>>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > >>>> Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom > https://bit.ly/virtualfriam > >>>> to (un)subscribe > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > >>>> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > >>>> archives: 5/2017 thru present > https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > >>>> 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ > >>> > >>> -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . > >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > >>> Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom > https://bit.ly/virtualfriam > >>> to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > >>> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > >>> archives: 5/2017 thru present > https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > >>> 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ > >>> > >>> > >>> -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . > >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > >>> Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom > https://bit.ly/virtualfriam > >>> to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > >>> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > >>> archives: 5/2017 thru present > https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > >>> 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ > > > > -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom > https://bit.ly/virtualfriam > > to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > > archives: 5/2017 thru present > https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ > > > -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom > https://bit.ly/virtualfriam > to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: 5/2017 thru present > https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >
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