Not particularly relevant to your main point but Raj Reddy, close colleague of Newell and Simon, once said, "It is easier use AI to replace a college professor than a bulldozer operator" or words tho that effect.
Frank --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Thu, Mar 30, 2023, 8:50 AM Prof David West <profw...@fastmail.fm> wrote: > The "AI Pause" made national TV news yesterday (long after those on this > list noted and reacted to it) and that made me revisit a theme I have > thought about since Newell, Simon, and Shaw created Logic Theorist. > > Advocates take a caricature (perhaps too strong a word) of human > intelligence, write a program to emulate it and declare the program > "intelligent." > > The original conceit: true intelligence was the kind of thinking exhibited > by college professors and scientists. Almost trivial to emulate (Newell and > Simon programmed Logic Theorist on 3x5 cards before Shaw was able to > implement on a computer). > > Maybe reading—correctly converting text to sound, like a child—was more > indicative of human intelligence, and Sejnowski created NetTalk. that, > somewhat eerily, produced discoveries of sounds, and errors, and achieved > near perfect ability to "read." Listen to the tapes sometime and contrast > them with tapes of a human child learning to read. Of course, comprehension > of what was read did not make the cut. > > State of the art improved dramatically and the caricatures of human > intelligence are more sophisticated and the achievements of the programs > more interesting. > > But, it seems to me there is still a critical gap. We can program an AI > (or let one learn) to fly a commercial jet as well or better than a human > pilot—BUT, could even the best of of breed of such an AI pull a > Shullenberger and land on the Hudson River? > > Another factor behind the "hysteria" (sorry for the sexism) over AIs > causing massive unemployment is a corollary to the caricaturization of > human intelligence. Since the Industrial Revolution, and certainly since > the age of Taylorism and the rise of automation; work itself has been > dehumanizing. > > If you define human work in terms of what can be done by a computer then > it is tautological to claim an AI is intelligent because it can perform > human work. > > I was contemplating ChatAIs and quickly realized that my > profession—college professor—was one at immense risk of replacement. I > would bet good money that a ChatAI could produce, and maybe deliver, > lectures far better than any I created in 30 years teaching. And probably > most, if not all, of the presentations I made at professional conferences > over the years. > > I am still vain enough to think that some of the papers and books I have > written are beyond an AI, and certain that no AI could do as well in > spontaneious Q&A after a presentation than I. > > Bottom line, I still believe that AI can and does equate to HI, only when > some aspect of HI is ommitted from the equation. This is not essentialism, > but analogous to the digitization of a sine wave, no matter the finite > sampling rate, there is always some missing information. > > davew > > -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom > https://bit.ly/virtualfriam > to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: 5/2017 thru present > https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >
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