Hi Stephen

no, sorry. There are others on the list that have extensive experience in using FS for NHP. Hopefully one of them can answer?

Bruce
On Mon, 21 Apr 2014, S.V.Shepherd [work] wrote:

Hi,

Did you have a chance to take a look at this? The basics shouldn't be
NHP-specific, so I'd still value your input even though I know you work only
with humans.

stephen

stephen v. shepherd   phd
The Rockefeller University / 1230 York Avenue / New York NY 10065-6307 USA
// 212.327.7620


On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:48 PM, S.V.Shepherd [work]
<stephen.v.sheph...@gmail.com> wrote:
      Hi Bruce,

      As requested, I'm transferring over the entire folder. It's
      saved as 140107OTIS_from_Shepherd_attn_Fischl.tar.gz

Our pipeline appears to sidestep aseg (I'm not precisely sure why or
how). I have what I think are a reasonable brainmask.mgz and wm.mgz,
which appear to be the two key files to target for manual edits. But
when I proceed to the next step:
   recon-all -autorecon2-wm -subjid 140107OTIS -cc-crs 128 108 168
-pons-crs 128 255 128 -noaseg
there are divots in the grey matter in the ACC just anterior and
dorsal to the genu and in middle OFC. I'm not sure why. Additionally,
the wm edits in occipital do not appear to be helping. This is easiest
to see if I run
   tkmedit 140107OTIS brain.mgz -aux wm.mgz -surfs
select a point just to the side of midline (e.g. 125 103 128) and
switch to a sagittal view.

Thanks for your help.

stephen



stephen v. shepherd   phd
The Rockefeller University / 1230 York Avenue / New York NY 10065-6307
USA // 212.327.7620


On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Bruce Fischl
<fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
      Hi Stephen

      can you upload the whole subject dir? Also, why is there
      no aseg for this subject?
      Bruce
      On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, S.V.Shepherd [work] wrote:

      I believe ventricles and callosum are correctly
      labeled. I've been viewing with ''' tkmedit
      140107OTIS brain.mgz -aux wm.mgz
      -surfs '''.  I've uploaded ( as per the instructions
      here:
      https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FtpFileExchange
      ) the file
      contents of my Otis's mri/ directory, as
      SVSHEPHERD_subj_OTIS_for_DOUG_on_20140408.tar.gz. I
      hope this will be enough?

      Ares of concern are
      * ACC (e.g. 123 105 208) - maybe misses a thin wm
      bundle? or won't grow grey from CC?
      * OFC (e.g. 123 133 218) - may be excluded as
      Olfactory Bulb, or bc too bright.
      * Occ (e.g. 115 109 97) - mostly poor scan quality;
      may require manual overpaint.

      stephen

            Hi Stephen

            Are the ventricles and callosum correctly
      labeled? If you upload a subject I'll
            try to take a look
            Cheers
            Bruce


            > On Apr 7, 2014, at 8:38 PM, "S.V.Shepherd
      [work]"
            > <stephen.v.sheph...@gmail.com> wrote:
            >
            > Greetings,
            >
            > I've been reconstructing a surface in an NHP
      using a Kolster T1 scan and
            > FS5.3.  It went very well, at first, but
      I've hit a wall.  I have trouble in
            > occipital (due to poor signal
      strength/constrast) and some typical-with-NHP
            > problems in ACC and OFC.  I think there are
      three related questions.
            >
            > 1) I lose parts of the ACC near the genu of
      the corpus callosum.  I have
            > attached a screen shot -- the white matter
      and gray matter both look decent. 
            > I wondered if the corpus callosum might be
      handled specially, and if
            > differences between human and nhp callosi
      might prevent the ACC from growing
            > normally?
            >
            > 2) In trying to deal with this, I greyed out
      the ACA, which was bright and
            > potentially confounding. I wasn't sure how
      to do this in
            > brain.finalsurfs.manedit, since my
      understanding is that only 1s (nonbrain)
            > and 255s (wm) were preserved. I tried brain,
      which got overwritten, but
            > ultimately succeeded by editing brainmask
      and rerunning -autorecon2-wm.  Is
            > there a way to repain gray matter in
      brain.finalsurfs.manedit?  Alternately,
            > if I continue editing brainmask (or
      equivalent) directly, should I be
            > darkening or lightening the gray matter in
      the excluded section of the ACC? 
            > I would assume lighten -- but in the OFC,
      some gray matter (not shown)
            > appears to be excluded for being too bright.
            >
            > 3) In some places I've specified wm (e.g. in
      the ACC, here) but it hasn't
            > stuck. I assume this is because autorecon
      isn't convinced by the wm
            > specification after looking at
      brain.finalsurfs -- how might I (gently!)
            > override this?
            >
            > Thanks very much for your time and patience.
            >
            > stephen
            >
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