Hi Bruce,

How would I go about updating the thickness estimates (?h.thickness, I
presume) after manually adjusting the pial surface in FreeView?  Are the
other surfaces (inflated, sphere, etc.) unaffected by this change, or
should they be recalculated as well?

stephen

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On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Bruce Fischl <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>wrote:

> Hi Stephen
>
> only the thickness estimates should matter, unless you've lost an entire
> gyrus or something
>
> Bruce
>
> On Sun, 11 May 2014, S.V.Shepherd [work] wrote:
>
>  Hi Bruce,
>>
>> This is the manual edit of the pial surface in FreeView, correcting
>> locations where the grey
>> matter failed to grow out of the white matter. It took place after the
>> pipeline had
>> completed, but I'm not sure if I need to rerun/regenerate steps which are
>> dependent on the
>> pial surface. For example, are mris_sphere, mris_curvature, and
>> mris_flatten dependent upon
>> the pial surface or cortical thickness, or do they work directly off the
>> wm/orig surface?
>> If the former, I should rerun them; if the latter I don't need to do
>> anything but just
>> repaint the functional statistics of interest using mri_vol2surf and the
>> updated cortical
>> bounds (which I presume happens automatically, having corrected ?h.pial).
>>
>> My comment about morphometry was meant to note that, since I'm manually
>> changing the
>> distance between the wm and pial surface in places where there were
>> medial surface
>> artifacts, it would be unwise to try to draw any conclusions from
>> comparing
>> manually-adjusted and automatically-calculated cortical thicknesses.
>>
>> stephen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> stephen v. shepherd   phd
>> The Rockefeller University / 1230 York Avenue / New York NY 10065-6307
>> USA // 212.327.7620
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Bruce Fischl <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>> wrote:
>>       Hi Stephen
>>
>>       why do you say it invalidates the morphometry? And we need to know
>> what pial
>>       surface editing you did in order to answer your questions (and what
>> recon-all
>>       steps you rerean)
>>
>>       cheers
>>       Bruce
>>
>>
>>       On Sun, 11 May 2014, S.V.Shepherd [work] wrote:
>>
>>             Hi Bruce,
>>
>>             Thanks again for your help at the FreeSurfer course. I've
>> corrected
>>             the pial surface
>>             manually (knowing that this invalidates the morphometry, but
>> that by
>>             restoring the medial
>>             surface it does let me process functional data).  Having done
>> this,
>>             do I need to remake
>>             spheres and patches, or are these unchanged?  For example,
>> when
>>             using mri_vol2surf, does
>>             freesurfer know what elements to sample by consulting the
>> ?h.orig
>>             and ?h.pial, or are there
>>             downstream files I should update as well?
>>
>>             Thanks!
>>
>>             stephen
>>
>>
>>
>>
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