Looking over our scripts, it appears we normally generates the surfaces
etc. through
  recon-all -autorecon2-wm <...> -noaseg
despite that ?h.pial isn't explicitly listed as an output in the dev table (
http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/ReconAllDevTable).

It looks like a step from autorecon3 might be useful:
  mris_make_surfaces <subjID> ?h -orig_white ?h.orig orig_pial ?h.pial
to update the curvature and thickness files without changing the wm and
pial -- but I'm not sure this is how it works.

stephen

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On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 5:22 PM, S.V.Shepherd [work] <
stephen.v.sheph...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Bruce,
>
> How would I go about updating the thickness estimates (?h.thickness, I
> presume) after manually adjusting the pial surface in FreeView?  Are the
> other surfaces (inflated, sphere, etc.) unaffected by this change, or
> should they be recalculated as well?
>
> stephen
>
> *stephen v. shepherd   phd*
> The Rockefeller University / 1230 York Avenue / New York NY 10065-6307 USA
> // 212.327.7620
>
>
> On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Bruce Fischl 
> <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>wrote:
>
>> Hi Stephen
>>
>> only the thickness estimates should matter, unless you've lost an entire
>> gyrus or something
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> On Sun, 11 May 2014, S.V.Shepherd [work] wrote:
>>
>>  Hi Bruce,
>>>
>>> This is the manual edit of the pial surface in FreeView, correcting
>>> locations where the grey
>>> matter failed to grow out of the white matter. It took place after the
>>> pipeline had
>>> completed, but I'm not sure if I need to rerun/regenerate steps which
>>> are dependent on the
>>> pial surface. For example, are mris_sphere, mris_curvature, and
>>> mris_flatten dependent upon
>>> the pial surface or cortical thickness, or do they work directly off the
>>> wm/orig surface?
>>> If the former, I should rerun them; if the latter I don't need to do
>>> anything but just
>>> repaint the functional statistics of interest using mri_vol2surf and the
>>> updated cortical
>>> bounds (which I presume happens automatically, having corrected ?h.pial).
>>>
>>> My comment about morphometry was meant to note that, since I'm manually
>>> changing the
>>> distance between the wm and pial surface in places where there were
>>> medial surface
>>> artifacts, it would be unwise to try to draw any conclusions from
>>> comparing
>>> manually-adjusted and automatically-calculated cortical thicknesses.
>>>
>>> stephen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> stephen v. shepherd   phd
>>> The Rockefeller University / 1230 York Avenue / New York NY 10065-6307
>>> USA // 212.327.7620
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Bruce Fischl <
>>> fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>>       Hi Stephen
>>>
>>>       why do you say it invalidates the morphometry? And we need to know
>>> what pial
>>>       surface editing you did in order to answer your questions (and
>>> what recon-all
>>>       steps you rerean)
>>>
>>>       cheers
>>>       Bruce
>>>
>>>
>>>       On Sun, 11 May 2014, S.V.Shepherd [work] wrote:
>>>
>>>             Hi Bruce,
>>>
>>>             Thanks again for your help at the FreeSurfer course. I've
>>> corrected
>>>             the pial surface
>>>             manually (knowing that this invalidates the morphometry, but
>>> that by
>>>             restoring the medial
>>>             surface it does let me process functional data).  Having
>>> done this,
>>>             do I need to remake
>>>             spheres and patches, or are these unchanged?  For example,
>>> when
>>>             using mri_vol2surf, does
>>>             freesurfer know what elements to sample by consulting the
>>> ?h.orig
>>>             and ?h.pial, or are there
>>>             downstream files I should update as well?
>>>
>>>             Thanks!
>>>
>>>             stephen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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