Hi,

Did you have a chance to take a look at this? The basics shouldn't be
NHP-specific, so I'd still value your input even though I know you work
only with humans.

stephen

*stephen v. shepherd   phd*
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On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:48 PM, S.V.Shepherd [work] <
stephen.v.sheph...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Bruce,
>
> As requested, I'm transferring over the entire folder. It's saved as
> 140107OTIS_from_Shepherd_attn_Fischl.tar.gz
>
> Our pipeline appears to sidestep aseg (I'm not precisely sure why or how).
> I have what I think are a reasonable brainmask.mgz and wm.mgz, which appear
> to be the two key files to target for manual edits. But when I proceed to
> the next step:
>    recon-all -autorecon2-wm -subjid 140107OTIS -cc-crs 128 108 168
> -pons-crs 128 255 128 -noaseg
> there are divots in the grey matter in the ACC just anterior and dorsal to
> the genu and in middle OFC. I'm not sure why. Additionally, the wm edits in
> occipital do not appear to be helping. This is easiest to see if I run
>
>    tkmedit 140107OTIS brain.mgz -aux wm.mgz -surfs
> select a point just to the side of midline (e.g. 125 103 128) and switch
> to a sagittal view.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> stephen
>
>
>
> *stephen v. shepherd   phd*
> The Rockefeller University / 1230 York Avenue / New York NY 10065-6307 USA
> // 212.327.7620
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Bruce Fischl <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
> > wrote:
>
>> Hi Stephen
>>
>> can you upload the whole subject dir? Also, why is there no aseg for this
>> subject?
>>
>> Bruce
>> On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, S.V.Shepherd [work] wrote:
>>
>>  I believe ventricles and callosum are correctly labeled. I've been
>>> viewing with ''' tkmedit 140107OTIS brain.mgz -aux wm.mgz
>>> -surfs '''.  I've uploaded ( as per the instructions here:
>>> https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FtpFileExchange ) the file
>>> contents of my Otis's mri/ directory, as 
>>> SVSHEPHERD_subj_OTIS_for_DOUG_on_20140408.tar.gz.
>>> I hope this will be enough?
>>>
>>> Ares of concern are
>>> * ACC (e.g. 123 105 208) - maybe misses a thin wm bundle? or won't grow
>>> grey from CC?
>>> * OFC (e.g. 123 133 218) - may be excluded as Olfactory Bulb, or bc too
>>> bright.
>>> * Occ (e.g. 115 109 97) - mostly poor scan quality; may require manual
>>> overpaint.
>>>
>>> stephen
>>>
>>>       Hi Stephen
>>>
>>>       Are the ventricles and callosum correctly labeled? If you upload a
>>> subject I'll
>>>       try to take a look
>>>       Cheers
>>>       Bruce
>>>
>>>
>>>       > On Apr 7, 2014, at 8:38 PM, "S.V.Shepherd [work]"
>>>       > <stephen.v.sheph...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>       >
>>>       > Greetings,
>>>       >
>>>       > I've been reconstructing a surface in an NHP using a Kolster T1
>>> scan and
>>>       > FS5.3.  It went very well, at first, but I've hit a wall.  I
>>> have trouble in
>>>       > occipital (due to poor signal strength/constrast) and some
>>> typical-with-NHP
>>>       > problems in ACC and OFC.  I think there are three related
>>> questions.
>>>       >
>>>       > 1) I lose parts of the ACC near the genu of the corpus
>>> callosum.  I have
>>>       > attached a screen shot -- the white matter and gray matter both
>>> look decent.
>>>       > I wondered if the corpus callosum might be handled specially,
>>> and if
>>>       > differences between human and nhp callosi might prevent the ACC
>>> from growing
>>>       > normally?
>>>       >
>>>       > 2) In trying to deal with this, I greyed out the ACA, which was
>>> bright and
>>>       > potentially confounding. I wasn't sure how to do this in
>>>       > brain.finalsurfs.manedit, since my understanding is that only 1s
>>> (nonbrain)
>>>       > and 255s (wm) were preserved. I tried brain, which got
>>> overwritten, but
>>>       > ultimately succeeded by editing brainmask and rerunning
>>> -autorecon2-wm.  Is
>>>       > there a way to repain gray matter in brain.finalsurfs.manedit?
>>> Alternately,
>>>       > if I continue editing brainmask (or equivalent) directly, should
>>> I be
>>>       > darkening or lightening the gray matter in the excluded section
>>> of the ACC?
>>>       > I would assume lighten -- but in the OFC, some gray matter (not
>>> shown)
>>>       > appears to be excluded for being too bright.
>>>       >
>>>       > 3) In some places I've specified wm (e.g. in the ACC, here) but
>>> it hasn't
>>>       > stuck. I assume this is because autorecon isn't convinced by the
>>> wm
>>>       > specification after looking at brain.finalsurfs -- how might I
>>> (gently!)
>>>       > override this?
>>>       >
>>>       > Thanks very much for your time and patience.
>>>       >
>>>       > stephen
>>>       >
>>>       > <Capture1.PNG><Capture2.PNG>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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