That's not exactly true. They said their focus was gaming and premium video. The side effects of them focusing on those aspects /may/ help us. Generally speaking, the new VM will not help us in the short-term.
-Nick On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 3:50 PM, sébastien Paturel <sebpatu.f...@gmail.com>wrote: > Yes thanks, but we need confirmation. > some can also argue that such an announcement can still leave room for > interpretation. > > Adobe's representative also said that flex would be able to gain from any > enhancement made for gaming, but if flex needs to be ported to ASNext for > that, it turns out to be false statement. unless i get something wrong. > > > Le 25/10/2012 21:44, charles.monte...@gmail.com a écrit : > > I had seen that before but had forgotten , thanks for pointing this out, >> so to summarize any 4.6 based apps will at the very least run on whatever >> runtimes are put out by adobe for the next 5 year's , that certainly allows >> for some time to figure out a forward path, pls correct if that's the wrong >> conclusion >> >> Sent from my Virgin Mobile Android-Powered Device >> >> ----- Reply message ----- >> From: "Om" <bigosma...@gmail.com> >> To: <flex-dev@incubator.apache.org**> >> Subject: ASC 2.0 and Falcon >> Date: Thu, Oct 25, 2012 3:08 pm >> >> >> From the Adobe Flex Whitepapaper [1] >> >> Adobe runtime support of Flex >> >>> Flash Player 11.2 and Adobe AIR 3.2, which are anticipated to ship in the >>> first quarter of 2012, will be tested with applications built using Adobe >>> Flex 4.6. *Adobe will test future releases of Flash Player and AIR >>> against the Adobe Flex 4.6 SDK and maintain backwards compatibility for >>> five years.* >>> >> >> [1] >> http://www.adobe.com/devnet/**flex/whitepapers/roadmap.html<http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/whitepapers/roadmap.html> >> >> Thanks, >> Om >> >> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:03 PM, sébastien Paturel >> <sebpatu.f...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >> Hi Thibault, >>> Thanks for the precision. >>> But one last info needed: will next AIR for mobile runtime will embed >>> only >>> the new vm? meaning that only ASNext projects will be able to run with >>> AIR >>> on new mobile devices / OS targetted by Adobe? >>> >>> Thanks >>> Seb >>> >>> >>> Le 25/10/2012 17:53, Thibault Imbert a écrit : >>> >>> Hi Sebastien, >>> >>>> To confirm, such a framework like Feathers or Starling would have to be >>>> updated to ASNext to run on the new VM. >>>> >>>> Sent from mobile, please pardon brevity/errors. >>>> ______________________________****__ >>>> From: sébastien Paturel >>>> Sent: 10/25/2012 8:45 AM >>>> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org >>>> Subject: Re: ASC 2.0 and Falcon >>>> >>>> In the short term, it will be needed by flex to run on VM3, to be able >>>> to create apps for new mobile hardware, and run better on retina >>>> Display. >>>> According to jonathan Campos, it is feasable to render flex sdk on >>>> starling for the next main release. >>>> And if i understand well what thibault said, we don't need anything more >>>> then that to run on next VM (for example no need to be AS4) >>>> "having a look at Feathers (work from Josh >Tynjala - feathersui.com) >>>> on >>>> top of Starling, which will run beautifully in our next runtime" >>>> It still has to be confirmed, but it could be a good short term solution >>>> (still relying on Adobe's runtime), to let flex the time to do more deep >>>> mutli target long term changes, even if it means starting again from >>>> scratch. >>>> >>>> If the solution is to start over, it could be the perfect time to ask if >>>> AS3 is the better choice for a multi target language, and if flex should >>>> not leverage what has been done with haxe. >>>> thats the question i was asking to Alex (i was not meaning AS4) >>>> >>>> jangaroo is great, but only for JS transcompilation, and future flex >>>> will need to target more platforms, like Haxe does. >>>> i wonder how jangaroo resolved issues with AS3 to JS compilation, that >>>> haxe resolved by dropping the feature directly from the language? >>>> >>>> >>>> Le 25/10/2012 17:01, Kevin Newman a écrit : >>>> >>>> On 10/18/12 7:28 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Yes, the community has to figure out what the essence of Flex really >>>>>> is. To me, it's an rapid-development application framework, the >>>>>> combination of a procedural language with a declarative language, and >>>>>> a widely-deployed runtime that can support RIAs. The runtime of the >>>>>> future for RIAs seems to be native code for mobile devices and >>>>>> HTML/Javascript for browser apps. The best procedural language is >>>>>> anything that can be compiled to these runtimes. MXML is a perfectly >>>>>> good declarative language for UIs. >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe the real discussion should be less about supporting AVM3 and >>>>> more about supporting a native compile framework - something like haXe >>>>> NME maybe (already open source). How much of Adobe's LLVM based iOS >>>>> AOT source is open? (if any) >>>>> >>>>> http://www.haxenme.org/ >>>>> >>>>> For Javascript, there's already Jangaroo (open source): >>>>> http://www.jangaroo.net/home/ >>>>> >>>>> Kevin N. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >