On 5/16/2018 11:07 AM, Derek Buitenhuis wrote: > On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 5:50 PM, Derek Buitenhuis > <derek.buitenh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> This is a little rambling / stream of thought, but take it as you will, >> and perhaps some discussion or change comes of it. Or, more likely, personal >> attacks, flames, and no change. Or 1 few will reply and then the thread will >> die and people will go on like it never happened. Sorry to be pessimistic, >> but history speaks for itself. > > 48 hours later and: > - Some votes for repealing the CoC. > - One vote for keeping
I think the issue is not the lack of clear enforcement rules, but a lack of a proactive enforcer, be it a person or a body. The CoC has done nothing but give people something to say when they want to be passive aggressive in a discussion. Changing it to a more strict one like Videolan's will not affect that. This lack of interest you mentioned is exactly the issue. If it all depends on the coordinated action and involvement of a dozen or so developers, then nothing will happen. As i said, the one time action was called for a developer's behavior, no voter showed up. I'm up for keeping it or making it stricter. But it needs to be enforced. So how do we get a dozen or so people to stop looking away every time someone is a dick in a thread? > - Some replies that do neither, but prefer to attack the example > rather than the actual point of the email. > - As suspected, a large chunk of the project's developers have > simply not replied, hoping it just goes away or blows over, or > don't care. > > I'd say the prediction was pretty accurated. I don't forsee any change, as per > usual. Just some flames, and nothing happens, as is tradition. Can't change > a community who are not interested and/or actively hostile to trying to be > less toxic. (inb4 'I just want to write code and not do politics/etc." > replies, > which really mean 'I am OK with the way it is and can't be arsed to make > it less toxic for others.') > > Cheers, > - Derek > _______________________________________________ > ffmpeg-devel mailing list > ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org > http://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel > _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org http://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel