On Friday, January 17, 2025 at 11:32:57 AM UTC-7 John Clark wrote:

On Fri, Jan 17, 2025 at 12:31 PM Alan Grayson <agrays...@gmail.com> wrote:

*>  I am halfway through the video you posted. IMO, there can be several 
ways to solve a problem and acceleration is one legitimate way because 
there IS accelation for the traveling twin, and acceleration IS equivalent 
to gravity, and gravity DOES slow clocks.*


*I may have missed a few but I think most of the diagrams posted so far in 
this thread have involved flat Minkowsky space, they show how clocks and 
measuring sticks would behave if you were in deep space far from any 
gravitational field, but gravity curves spacetime.  Special Relativity can 
handle the acceleration of a rocket if it's well beyond the orbit of 
Neptune, but not if it's close to the sun. Special relativity can't handle 
gravity because that involves curved spacetime, and for that you need 
General Relativity. Special Relativity has no explanation for why gravity 
causes things to move the way that they do, but General Relativity does. *  
 


*IMO SR can handle curved spacetime. All one has to do is make the 
partitions very fine, so we're approximating inertial motion along very 
short paths. AG* 


*> I will finish the video out of curiosity for the author's supposed 
solution, but it seems obvious that acceleration is one possible solution.*


*If you watch the rest of the video you'll see a modification of the 
standard twin "paradox" that does not involve acceleration but produces the 
same odd situation. *

*John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis 
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*
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