On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 5:41 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:
*> Thanks for this post. Before going further into this issue, please > define your three terms: deterministic, * *True randomness is impossible because every event has a cause, although information about that cause may not always be available to every observer. * *> local * *The speed at which information can be transmitted, and the speed of cause-and-effect in general, is finite; and X cannot produce a change in Y without producing a change in something between X and Y.* *> and realistic.* *Every observable about an unmeasured particle exists in one definite state. * *No quantum interpretation that is consistent with experiments can be all three, Many Worlds is deterministic and local but it is not realistic, Pilot Wave theory is deterministic and realistic but not local, Objective Collapse is local and realistic but not deterministic. As for Copenhagen, its followers can't agree even among themselves what it is. * *John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>* xr3 > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv3OVeK0E0jSD8P3EDc8Gm2BOmEb7STbheBiHsqYcXG9Xw%40mail.gmail.com.
