Here's a video I made about a year ago on how Tesla charging works. I need to do another one with updates. https://youtu.be/0lxxOsLcNQQ
On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 10:23 AM (-Phil-) <p...@ingineerix.com> wrote: > No, but there is no way to bill it. Tesla handles billing on SWCAN > supercharger protocol by VIN, the car controls the supercharger, there is > no back-end auth. So the only technical way to build such an adapter > would be to spoof a Tesla, and "steal" the power, which is theft of > service, and probably access device fraud (I am not an attorney), which > carries a 10 year sentence. > > On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 10:16 AM John Lussmyer via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> > wrote: > >> So, you are saying that it's technically impossible to build a CCS >> adapter that can translate the CCS standard communications to whatever >> the current Tesla super chargers have. i.e. Ford Lied about it. >> it is physically impossible, even if you have the Ford app that will >> work with Tesla superchargers, and it tells the system that using a >> special Ford Custom CCS adapter is ok, that it can't ever work. >> >> On 6/21/2023 8:51 AM, (-Phil-) wrote: >> > The broken record continues: >> > >> > Only the superchargers that support CCS signalling native (V4) or the >> > two (so far) V3 retrofitted with Magic dock will be able to be used by >> > 3rd party EVs, adapter or not! >> > >> > It's all right there at 4.5.1 in the "official" Tesla document: >> > >> https://tesla-cdn.thron.com/static/HXVNIC_North_American_Charging_Standard_Technical_Specification_TS-0023666_HFTPKZ.pdf?xseo=&response-content-disposition=inline%3Bfilename%3D%22North-American-Charging-Standard-Technical-Specification-TS-0023666.pdf%22 >> > < >> https://tesla-cdn.thron.com/static/HXVNIC_North_American_Charging_Standard_Technical_Specification_TS-0023666_HFTPKZ.pdf?xseo=&response-content-disposition=inline%3Bfilename%3D%22North-American-Charging-Standard-Technical-Specification-TS-0023666.pdf%22 >> > >> > >> > It's the first link; "Technical Specification" on this page: >> > https://www.tesla.com/support/charging-product-guides#NACS-resources >> > >> > It specifies "For DC charging, communication between the EV and EVSE >> > shall be power line communication over the control pilot line as >> > depicted in DIN 70121.", which is NOT supported by current V1, V2, and >> > V3 superchargers all over North America. In addition, the location >> > and length of Tesla's whips are not able to reach almost any other EV >> > without it blocking multiple parking spots. >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org >> No other addresses in TO and CC fields >> HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20230621/5b5b5bfb/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
