No. If you read the Official NACS document I linked to a few posts ago, the ONLY communications protocol supported is PLC (DIN 70121), they do not list the single-wire CAN legacy supercharger protocol in any of these released documents because they absolutely will not support 3rd party use of it.
This documentation means that all 3rd party use of NACS will be effectively CCS just using Tesla's NACS connector, it will authenticate the same, and require working back-end communications for a 3rd party EV using the Tesla app, another manufacturer's app, or plug-and-charge (ISO 15118). All of these will require back-end auth. This will also have the side-effect of drastically reducing the reliability of the superchargers for 3rd party EVs. Mark my words. On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 12:41 PM John Lussmyer <cou...@casadelgato.com> wrote: > So, Ford, with the Tesla API, can have their newer vehicles control the > Tesla charger. > AND if the existing Ford vehicle has some smarts, and a "smart" adapter, > it could also control the Tesla charger. > Again, I'm talking a major car manufacturer, with a API agreement with > Tesla, making the adapter. > Ford isn't about to miss a chance to bill it's car users for a new service. > Even if the car doesn't have cell comms, I'd bet it can connect to a > phone that does. > > On 6/21/2023 11:37 AM, (-Phil-) wrote: > > No using the existing supercharging protocol that Tesla uses on all > > it's existing fleet, the CAR CONTROLS THE SUPERCHARGER, not the other > > way around. All authentication/billing is handled on the CAR SIDE. > > The literally is ZERO AUTHENTICATION on the supercharger. > > > > If you don't pay your bill, the CAR is what refuses to let you > > charge. There is no VIN list, there is no back-end comms needed, and > > this is one of the main reasons the superchargers have been so > > reliable. Most do have a cell connection to a back end for > > logging/status, and this is in-turn sent to the cars so you can see > > stall availability at each site, but it's not always working. Some > > superchargers in remote locations do not have cell, and thus do not > > show up with status on your in-car supercharging map. > > > > The car can also log data from the supercharger and cache it for later > > upload when the car gets back into cell range. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20230621/5486b4ca/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
