On 6/21/23 15:40, (-Phil-) via EV wrote:
I agree about the invasive logging, which is why I offer the service to
disconnect a Tesla from Tesla's back end.   This can be done in degrees, so
no communication, only needed communication, or just no logging/telemetry
(software updates still possible).

But Tesla isn't the only one, pretty much all automakers, EV or not, now
have fully connected infotainment.   Just like a smartphone, your car is
now in constant communication with their back-end.   In fact, GM was one of
the first into this with OnStar in 2011.  Since then the amount of data
collected has only increased.


If the Nissan Leaf experience is any indication, older cars will start to lose communications with the factory after their warranty expires. In the case of the Leaf, the 2G cellular modems they used stopped working completely as various telecommunications companies upgraded to 3G/4G and shut down their 2G networks. If you wanted to retain telematics, you had to take proactive action and pay to have the modem upgraded to 3G.

[Also, cellular data plans cost money, as soon as the manufacturer stops paying for them, you would be limited to wifi, etc...]

So I expect that in a few years on the used market, you'll start finding that it costs money if you want to keep telemetries services (remote climate, unlock, charge monitoring, etc...)


Jay
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