On 07/30/2014 02:00 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: > Am 07/30/2014 10:50 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: >> >> >> On 07/30/2014 01:44 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: >>> Am 07/30/2014 08:51 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: >>>> >>>> >>>> On 07/30/2014 11:05 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: >>>>> Am 07/28/2014 09:43 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): >>>>>> Am 07/28/2014 07:07 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 07/28/2014 01:05 AM, Tal Daniel wrote: >>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 2:35 AM, Kay Schenk<kay.sch...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 07/26/2014 10:16 PM, Tal Daniel wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Don't you think this page should exist elsewhere, not on the >>>>>>>>>> site? >>>>>>>>>> maybe >>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>> openoffice.apache.org> native language section? It's feels as a >>>>>>>>>> status >>>>>>>>>> page, rather than a page for visitors. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tal >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think it's just where it is for historical purposes, and I see >>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>> point. We can move it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Anyway, my "new" version is at: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/projects/native-lang-new.html >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Even after I suggested it, I'm not sure I'm 100% happy with my >>>>>>>>> simpler >>>>>>>>> definitions. See the definition for "maintained". The download >>>>>>>>> links >>>>>>>>> from these pages work, but some are NOT to a localized download >>>>>>>>> due to >>>>>>>>> editing (by me some weeks ago) to at least get them to some >>>>>>>>> correct >>>>>>>>> download area. :/ So, what to do with these gray areas? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nonactive/non-maintained websites will, eventually, be removed >>>>>>>> from the >>>>>>>> language selection box;a call for volunteers is also >>>>>>>> appropriate, in >>>>>>>> order >>>>>>>> to revive such a website (another column?) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> yes... >>>>>> >>>>>> choosing the language from the drop-down-box is a fast and cheap >>>>>> way to >>>>>> come to unmaintained webpages that have the large hint (we have to >>>>>> make >>>>>> this sure) to help to get it complete again. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, I think it would not be good to delete it from the selection. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Ok, I just changed the definitions slightly and corrected some >>>>>>> errors >>>>>>> I'd made in assessment yesterday as well. This needs another pair of >>>>>>> eyes! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> again, at: >>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/projects/native-lang-new.html >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe we should take the content (current or outdated) and the >>>>>> work on >>>>>> it (maintained or help wanted) into account? With this we can say, >>>>>> e.g., >>>>>> "outdated + maintained". This means that the content is old but >>>>>> there is >>>>>> someone who is working on updates. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here my further idea: >>>>>> >>>>>> current The website is OK and needs no help. >>>>>> >>>>>> outdated The website has old content and needs to be updated. >>>>>> >>>>>> maintained Someone is already actively working on the website. >>>>>> >>>>>> help wanted Volunteers are welcome to help updating the website. >>>>> >>>>> the discussion about formatting is all fine and all good. But without >>>>> content is doesn't matter, right? ;-) >>>>> >>>>> Please can we first finalize the content. Then we can beautifying the >>>>> webpage step by step. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> Marcus >>>> >>>> That would be nice! :)
Ok, back to these ideas above. In my mind -- maintained -> current, and current -> maintained so these are one in the same from a logical standpoint despite nuances in definition. In a similar fashion, outdated -> unmaintained -> help wanted. So why not just call it "unmaintained" and provide some further explanation by what is meant by this versus a separate entry in the table. Mostly, I am just trying to keep the maintenance and general understanding of this page simpler for everybody. >>>> >>>> I just put the page with the changes I made recently into production >>>> at: >>>> >>>> http://www.openoffice.org/projects/native-lang-new.html >>>> >>>> so it should be easy for others to make further changes. >>> >>> thats not what I wanted. IMHO we haven't finished our discussion about >>> status (and maybe further content). >>> >>> Marcus >> >> Well I will not be the least bit upset if you revert this change. > > ahm no ;-) What I meant is, we were in the discussion of the status, I > made a further suggestion (see above: current, outdated, maintained and > help wanted) and then it turnd into how to style the text. > > I just want to get the discussion back to the topic as IMHO we have not > an agreed text. > > Marcus > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- MzK "For evil to flourish, it only requires good men to do nothing." -- Simon Wiesenthal --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org