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On Aug 11, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Alexandro Colorado <j...@oooes.org> wrote: > On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> wrote: > >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 11, 2013, at 1:35 AM, Alexandro Colorado <j...@oooes.org> wrote: >> >>> I think the image structure on the website is a bit messy, there has been >>> some cleanup done by kschenk but I think there is still a lot of clean up >>> work to be done. >>> >>> For example, the new logo, was simply draged and drop to the AOOLogos >>> folder with a huge name. I understand the name was needed to identify it >>> between the rest of the competitive logos. But now that is selected, the >>> current name is unecessary long. >>> >>> Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_ChrisR_selected_2013-06_optim_300w.png< >> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_ChrisR_selected_2013-06_optim_300w.png?view=log >>> >>> >>> At the same time we have old logos which had been untouch. I think the >>> webdevs have small understanding of a svn is builted so that the files >> are >>> updated without having different versions laying arround. >> >> This is not so. I can assure you that I completely understand SVN and VCS. >> >> Choices were made to be non disruptive. Changing logos for the site is >> handled in exactly one spot. This means different names for different >> versions is entirely appropriate. > > I can't imagine this 'non disruptive' happening in code as well and having > different librarries with different classes and different names attached to > the libraries. Like all of the sudden you have 5 ColumnControlWindow.cxx it > would now be ColumnControlWindow_joes_selected_20130218.cxx attached to > previous 5 different alternatives of the .cxx file. We are discussing the website and the work that Kay and I did during the move to Apache. Remember you referred to webdevs not understanding svn. > > >> >>> Over this >>> example, ooo-logo.png and >>> AOO4_website_logo.png< >> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png?view=log >>> exist. >> >> The logos differ. The names differ. > > The logos are outdated and obosolete, they should only exist in the > revsion history, and maybe on a different archieved section with a more > detailed metadata instead of cludgy filename. Something like: > > svn log: > logo.png rev123222 AOO 4 for website selected from contest... > rev123221 AOO logo 3.4.1 under apache brand > rev123220 OOo Oracle branding for .. > Kay has proposed and created a canonical location for logos and original art. You suggested that some standards for sizes and names be applied, we await a concrete proposal. > > >> >> If we are looking to provide a canonical path to a single current logo for >> third party use then that is a different question >> >>> All these proliferation of logos, usually will built up to become >>> incredibly messy to work. I suggest to put the information such as >> author, >>> version, status, etc. on the comments of the commit and not on the >>> filename. >> >> I agree that the name is long, changing it would be simple, but to what? > > Is unnecesary long. K.I.S.S. PNG and SVG have metadata exactly for issues > like this. Imagemagic can just do something like > > convert logo.png -set Title "Apache OpenOffice 4" -set Author "ChrisR" > logo.png > > identify -verbose logo.png |grep Title > > Title: Apache OpenOffice 4 > > > > http://blog.client9.com/2007/08/editing-png-metadata-from-command-line.html Add it to a list of proposed actions to be discussed. The cwiki is provided for this purpose. I don't disagree, but it is absolutely necessary to proceed in an open manner. Regards, Dave > > >> >> Author is the committer and if they are representing others contribution >> then they can easily indicate that is so. >> >> If creating a PNG based on an SVG then include the SVG path in the comment. >> >>> Likewise to take the time to look for the source of the image, >>> since there is an SVG/ folder to link the source of them, and finally if >>> there are different images (sizes) to have a common convention. >> >> If you would like to discuss common conventions and sizes then please >> create a cwiki page and start a new thread. >> >>> >>> If you want to review the images please go here: >> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/ >> >> Regards, >> Dave >>> >>> -- >>> Alexandro Colorado >>> Apache OpenOffice Contributor >>> http://www.openoffice.org >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > -- > Alexandro Colorado > Apache OpenOffice Contributor > http://www.openoffice.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
