On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> wrote:

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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Aug 11, 2013, at 1:35 AM, Alexandro Colorado <j...@oooes.org> wrote:
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> > I think the image structure on the website is a bit messy, there has been
> > some cleanup done by kschenk but I think there is still a lot of clean up
> > work to be done.
> >
> > For example, the new logo, was simply draged and drop to the AOOLogos
> > folder with a huge name. I understand the name was needed to identify it
> > between the rest of the competitive logos. But now that is selected, the
> > current name is unecessary long.
> >
> > Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_ChrisR_selected_2013-06_optim_300w.png<
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_ChrisR_selected_2013-06_optim_300w.png?view=log
> >
> >
> > At the same time we have old logos which had been untouch. I think the
> > webdevs have small understanding of a svn is builted so that the files
> are
> > updated without having different versions laying arround.
>
> This is not so. I can assure you that I completely understand SVN and VCS.
>
> Choices were made to be non disruptive. Changing logos for the site is
> handled in exactly one spot. This means different names for different
> versions is entirely appropriate.
>

​I can't imagine this 'non disruptive' happening in code as well and having
different librarries with different classes and different names attached to
the libraries. Like all of the sudden you have 5 ColumnControlWindow.cxx it
would now be ColumnControlWindow_joes_selected_20130218.cxx attached to
previous 5 different alternatives of the .cxx file. ​


>
> > Over this
> > example, ooo-logo.png and
> > AOO4_website_logo.png<
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png?view=log
> >exist.
> >
>
> The logos differ. The names differ.
>

​The logos are outdated and obosolete, they should only exist in the
revsion history, and maybe on a different archieved section with a more
detailed metadata instead of cludgy filename. Something like:

svn log:
logo.png  rev123222 AOO 4 for website selected from contest...
             rev123221 AOO logo 3.4.1 under apache brand
             rev123220 OOo Oracle branding for .. ​



>
> If we are looking to provide a canonical path to a single current logo for
> third party use then that is a different question
>
> > All these proliferation of logos, usually will built up to become
> > incredibly messy to work. I suggest to put the information such as
> author,
> > version, status, etc. on the comments of the commit and not on the
> > filename.
>
> I agree that the name is long, changing it would be simple, but to what?
>

​Is unnecesary long.​ K.I.S.S. PNG and SVG have metadata exactly for issues
like this. Imagemagic can just do something like

convert logo.png -set Title "Apache OpenOffice 4" -set Author "ChrisR" logo.png

identify -verbose logo.png |grep Title

   Title: Apache OpenOffice 4

​​

​http://blog.client9.com/2007/08/editing-png-metadata-from-command-line.html
​

>
> Author is the committer and if they are representing others contribution
> then they can easily indicate that is so.
>
> If creating a PNG based on an SVG then include the SVG path in the comment.
>
> >  Likewise to take the time to look for the source of the image,
> > since there is an SVG/ folder to link the source of them, and finally if
> > there are different images (sizes) to have a common convention.
>
> If you would like to discuss common conventions and sizes then please
> create a cwiki page and start a new thread.
>
> >
> > If you want to review the images please go here:
> >
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/
>
> Regards,
> Dave
> >
> > --
> > Alexandro Colorado
> > Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> > http://www.openoffice.org
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Alexandro Colorado
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