On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Kevin Grignon <kevingrignon...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hello All, > > Sorry, i haven't had cycles to work on this. > > Please consider these votes a selection of direction as final adjustments > will need to be made to the graphics and text. > > It appears there is interest in a flat treatment. Other than that, > palette, fonts and relation ship to app icons and other graphics is still > open. > > Sorry to open a can of worms, but design is not linear, is not well suited > for polls. Rather, select a direction, say flat, then open a quick > iteration to explore flat. Incremental decisions will allow us to refine. > It is not all or nothing. Also, consider the synergy which is possible by > combining elements from different designs. > I think the 5 or 6 (flat design) choices would be well-suited to a poll. Design is not linear as you point out, but a lot of time has already been spent on these proposals I would think. To me, there is no harm in a simple poll at this point. I would think predominant participation would be from existing OpenOffice users, but I could be wrong about this. > > Regards, > Kevin > > On Apr 15, 2013, at 6:27 AM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Samer Mansour <samer...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> Summary of feedback (which I found made points): > >> > >> Samer - Lets go flat, its strong in all aspects brought up. > >> Kay S. - Agrees with flat logo. Poll should be limited to few. > >> Robin - Wordmarks need more attention (not logo specific), Vasilis logo > is > >> cool, downside too different. Robin made a similar refresh with/without > >> feather. Scales his orb down, no indication for his logo preference (he > did > >> submit one more). Agrees technical aspect of print, but its not deciding > >> factor (I agree but it should be satisfied). > >> Dave F - Wordmark needs attention as well, likes flat logo. > >> Dennis - Check with trademark@ > >> Andrea - Likes orb, not a fan of flat (as its been used as a surrogate > in > >> the past due to limitations). > >> Alexandro - alters Robins logo. > >> Juergen - What about stand alone logo for buttons, stickers. Proposes we > >> should poll. > >> Kadal - "Because companies do it, we shouldn't?" - not sure that is > >> convincing b/c they pay expert designers. > >> Vasilis - Likes flat, but wordmark not so much. > >> Milo - Likes flat, but workmark needs changing, TM placement too. > >> Rob - Poll, but its not decision making. PMC decides in end. PMC likes > >> data, more the better (ie. poll data). "Consider conferences and booth > >> materials, CD prints, etc." > >> Janl - Agrees poll for decision is bad idea, but poll for data is good. > >> "Keep it similar to classic orb". "Doesn't have to be flat" but Janl > >> doesn't state outright if flat is bad. > >> Graham L - "Logo is not a computer icon". Print is a huge part of > >> marketing. Print good -> electronically good, but not necessarily other > way > >> around. > >> > >> I could set up a visual poll and share multiple time over facebook and > >> social media. > >> > >> > http://freeonlinesurveys.com/app/showpoll.asp?qid=244375&sid=xz7athj6ytcg4mb244375&new=True > >> > >> Respond with your favourite 3 logo please, or top 2 or 1. The logos that > >> score the least will be eliminated: > >> > >> 1. Flattened Logo > >> 2. Kevin G. Flat Feather. > >> 3. third pick abstained. > >> > > > > I would also include: > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/31818000/OO_4_final_design_Robin-Fowler.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1365884183026 > > > > Yes, the feather is a bit too big but it could be made smaller... > > > > I guess we work on lettering after the logo? > > > > Thanks for all this work by everybody! > > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Ian Lynch <ianrly...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >>> On 13 April 2013 16:25, Graham Lauder <y...@apache.org> wrote: > >>> > >>>>> Hi Milos, > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 06:45:18PM +0200, Milosh Vujnovic wrote: > >>>>>> Hi guys, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> just a quick comment and clarification regarding printing and > >> logos. > >>>>>> Print-friendly version (vector, CMYK) is crucial to be prepared > >>>>>> during logo design process. This includes color and black&white > >>>>>> version (on light and dark background). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I must disagree with the comments on that printing is rarely used > >>>>>> anymore - few examples include billboards, fair stands, business > >>>>>> cards, letterheads and other stationery, and so on. > >>>>> > >>>>> But OpenOffice is a desktop application. For me, this means the main > >>>>> focus should be in a logo that looks good everywhere where it is > >> mainly > >>>>> used, in the user's desktop (even in the window title bar) and the > >>>>> website (even in the website favicon). Thus, IMHO, printing has the > >>>>> lowest priority. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Regards > >>>> > >>>> I have been keeping out of this conversation because I don't have time > >> at > >>>> the > >>>> moment to give sufficient focus to OO, but I have been reading the > list > >>> as > >>>> I > >>>> am able. The above statement however prompts me to respond. > >>>> > >>>> The main focus of the logo is to identify and attract. The statement > >>> above > >>>> shows a limited understanding of marketing. The advent of computers > >> has > >>>> far > >>>> from given us a paperless office, it has in fact increased paper usage > >>> by a > >>>> huge margin. Print media is a hugely significant part of marketing > >>>> collateral. Flyers, posters CD sleeves and labels, business cards > etc. > >>>> Whenever reviews are printed in magazines there should be a logo with > >> the > >>>> article. Logo is not just about finding OO on a computer, that's an > >>> icon. > >>>> > >>>> The logo should work in print (specifically worst case scenario which > >> is > >>> 4 > >>>> colour on newsprint) and it will work digitally, the opposite does not > >>>> necessarily follow. > >>>> > >>>> Cheers > >>>> GL > >>>> > >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Apart form anything else, why is it so difficult to make a vector image > >>> that is good on print and on screen? When something is achievable why > >>> settle for something less? > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Ian > >>> > >>> Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications < > >>> https://theingots.org/community/faq#7.0> > >>> > >>> Headline points in the 2014 and 2015 school league tables > >>> > >>> www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 > >>> > >>> The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, > >>> Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. 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