Rob, Would I be able to gain access to create this poll? Could you set me up and send me the details?
I complete the test poll you sent out, there was a couple options shown off in that. I'd have to see if it allows us to post an image right inside the survey so they don't need to turn to another tab. Sam On Apr 17, 2013 8:08 PM, "Rob Weir" <robw...@apache.org> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Kevin Grignon < > kevingrignon...@gmail.com > > >wrote: > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > > Sorry, i haven't had cycles to work on this. > > > > > > Please consider these votes a selection of direction as final > adjustments > > > will need to be made to the graphics and text. > > > > > > It appears there is interest in a flat treatment. Other than that, > > > palette, fonts and relation ship to app icons and other graphics is > still > > > open. > > > > > > Sorry to open a can of worms, but design is not linear, is not well > > suited > > > for polls. Rather, select a direction, say flat, then open a quick > > > iteration to explore flat. Incremental decisions will allow us to > refine. > > > It is not all or nothing. Also, consider the synergy which is possible > by > > > combining elements from different designs. > > > > > > > I think the 5 or 6 (flat design) choices would be well-suited to a poll. > > Design is not linear as you point out, but a lot of time has already been > > spent on these proposals I would think. > > > > To me, there is no harm in a simple poll at this point. I would think > > predominant participation would be from existing OpenOffice users, but I > > could be wrong about this. > > > > > > If we want I can put a poll up on http://openofficesurvey.org. I could > make it a ranked preference poll, where we can sort all of the options. > The survey can also have a box for comments. > > -Rob > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Kevin > > > > > > On Apr 15, 2013, at 6:27 AM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Samer Mansour <samer...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> Summary of feedback (which I found made points): > > > >> > > > >> Samer - Lets go flat, its strong in all aspects brought up. > > > >> Kay S. - Agrees with flat logo. Poll should be limited to few. > > > >> Robin - Wordmarks need more attention (not logo specific), Vasilis > > logo > > > is > > > >> cool, downside too different. Robin made a similar refresh > > with/without > > > >> feather. Scales his orb down, no indication for his logo preference > > (he > > > did > > > >> submit one more). Agrees technical aspect of print, but its not > > deciding > > > >> factor (I agree but it should be satisfied). > > > >> Dave F - Wordmark needs attention as well, likes flat logo. > > > >> Dennis - Check with trademark@ > > > >> Andrea - Likes orb, not a fan of flat (as its been used as a > surrogate > > > in > > > >> the past due to limitations). > > > >> Alexandro - alters Robins logo. > > > >> Juergen - What about stand alone logo for buttons, stickers. > Proposes > > we > > > >> should poll. > > > >> Kadal - "Because companies do it, we shouldn't?" - not sure that is > > > >> convincing b/c they pay expert designers. > > > >> Vasilis - Likes flat, but wordmark not so much. > > > >> Milo - Likes flat, but workmark needs changing, TM placement too. > > > >> Rob - Poll, but its not decision making. PMC decides in end. PMC > likes > > > >> data, more the better (ie. poll data). "Consider conferences and > booth > > > >> materials, CD prints, etc." > > > >> Janl - Agrees poll for decision is bad idea, but poll for data is > > good. > > > >> "Keep it similar to classic orb". "Doesn't have to be flat" but Janl > > > >> doesn't state outright if flat is bad. > > > >> Graham L - "Logo is not a computer icon". Print is a huge part of > > > >> marketing. Print good -> electronically good, but not necessarily > > other > > > way > > > >> around. > > > >> > > > >> I could set up a visual poll and share multiple time over facebook > and > > > >> social media. > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > http://freeonlinesurveys.com/app/showpoll.asp?qid=244375&sid=xz7athj6ytcg4mb244375&new=True > > > >> > > > >> Respond with your favourite 3 logo please, or top 2 or 1. The logos > > that > > > >> score the least will be eliminated: > > > >> > > > >> 1. Flattened Logo > > > >> 2. Kevin G. Flat Feather. > > > >> 3. third pick abstained. > > > >> > > > > > > > > I would also include: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/31818000/OO_4_final_design_Robin-Fowler.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1365884183026 > > > > > > > > Yes, the feather is a bit too big but it could be made smaller... > > > > > > > > I guess we work on lettering after the logo? > > > > > > > > Thanks for all this work by everybody! > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Ian Lynch <ianrly...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> On 13 April 2013 16:25, Graham Lauder <y...@apache.org> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>>> Hi Milos, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 06:45:18PM +0200, Milosh Vujnovic wrote: > > > >>>>>> Hi guys, > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> just a quick comment and clarification regarding printing and > > > >> logos. > > > >>>>>> Print-friendly version (vector, CMYK) is crucial to be prepared > > > >>>>>> during logo design process. This includes color and black&white > > > >>>>>> version (on light and dark background). > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> I must disagree with the comments on that printing is rarely > used > > > >>>>>> anymore - few examples include billboards, fair stands, business > > > >>>>>> cards, letterheads and other stationery, and so on. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> But OpenOffice is a desktop application. For me, this means the > > main > > > >>>>> focus should be in a logo that looks good everywhere where it is > > > >> mainly > > > >>>>> used, in the user's desktop (even in the window title bar) and > the > > > >>>>> website (even in the website favicon). Thus, IMHO, printing has > the > > > >>>>> lowest priority. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Regards > > > >>>> > > > >>>> I have been keeping out of this conversation because I don't have > > time > > > >> at > > > >>>> the > > > >>>> moment to give sufficient focus to OO, but I have been reading the > > > list > > > >>> as > > > >>>> I > > > >>>> am able. The above statement however prompts me to respond. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> The main focus of the logo is to identify and attract. The > statement > > > >>> above > > > >>>> shows a limited understanding of marketing. The advent of > computers > > > >> has > > > >>>> far > > > >>>> from given us a paperless office, it has in fact increased paper > > usage > > > >>> by a > > > >>>> huge margin. Print media is a hugely significant part of > marketing > > > >>>> collateral. Flyers, posters CD sleeves and labels, business cards > > > etc. > > > >>>> Whenever reviews are printed in magazines there should be a logo > > with > > > >> the > > > >>>> article. Logo is not just about finding OO on a computer, that's > an > > > >>> icon. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> The logo should work in print (specifically worst case scenario > > which > > > >> is > > > >>> 4 > > > >>>> colour on newsprint) and it will work digitally, the opposite does > > not > > > >>>> necessarily follow. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Cheers > > > >>>> GL > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: > marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > > marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Apart form anything else, why is it so difficult to make a vector > > image > > > >>> that is good on print and on screen? When something is achievable > why > > > >>> settle for something less? > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> -- > > > >>> Ian > > > >>> > > > >>> Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications < > > > >>> https://theingots.org/community/faq#7.0> > > > >>> > > > >>> Headline points in the 2014 and 2015 school league tables > > > >>> > > > >>> www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 > > > >>> > > > >>> The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, > > > >>> Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. 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