On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Kevin Grignon <kevingrignon...@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > Hello All, > > > > Sorry, i haven't had cycles to work on this. > > > > Please consider these votes a selection of direction as final adjustments > > will need to be made to the graphics and text. > > > > It appears there is interest in a flat treatment. Other than that, > > palette, fonts and relation ship to app icons and other graphics is still > > open. > > > > Sorry to open a can of worms, but design is not linear, is not well > suited > > for polls. Rather, select a direction, say flat, then open a quick > > iteration to explore flat. Incremental decisions will allow us to refine. > > It is not all or nothing. Also, consider the synergy which is possible by > > combining elements from different designs. > > > > I think the 5 or 6 (flat design) choices would be well-suited to a poll. > Design is not linear as you point out, but a lot of time has already been > spent on these proposals I would think. > > To me, there is no harm in a simple poll at this point. I would think > predominant participation would be from existing OpenOffice users, but I > could be wrong about this. > > If we want I can put a poll up on http://openofficesurvey.org. I could make it a ranked preference poll, where we can sort all of the options. The survey can also have a box for comments. -Rob > > > > > > Regards, > > Kevin > > > > On Apr 15, 2013, at 6:27 AM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Samer Mansour <samer...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > >> Summary of feedback (which I found made points): > > >> > > >> Samer - Lets go flat, its strong in all aspects brought up. > > >> Kay S. - Agrees with flat logo. Poll should be limited to few. > > >> Robin - Wordmarks need more attention (not logo specific), Vasilis > logo > > is > > >> cool, downside too different. Robin made a similar refresh > with/without > > >> feather. Scales his orb down, no indication for his logo preference > (he > > did > > >> submit one more). Agrees technical aspect of print, but its not > deciding > > >> factor (I agree but it should be satisfied). > > >> Dave F - Wordmark needs attention as well, likes flat logo. > > >> Dennis - Check with trademark@ > > >> Andrea - Likes orb, not a fan of flat (as its been used as a surrogate > > in > > >> the past due to limitations). > > >> Alexandro - alters Robins logo. > > >> Juergen - What about stand alone logo for buttons, stickers. Proposes > we > > >> should poll. > > >> Kadal - "Because companies do it, we shouldn't?" - not sure that is > > >> convincing b/c they pay expert designers. > > >> Vasilis - Likes flat, but wordmark not so much. > > >> Milo - Likes flat, but workmark needs changing, TM placement too. > > >> Rob - Poll, but its not decision making. PMC decides in end. PMC likes > > >> data, more the better (ie. poll data). "Consider conferences and booth > > >> materials, CD prints, etc." > > >> Janl - Agrees poll for decision is bad idea, but poll for data is > good. > > >> "Keep it similar to classic orb". "Doesn't have to be flat" but Janl > > >> doesn't state outright if flat is bad. > > >> Graham L - "Logo is not a computer icon". Print is a huge part of > > >> marketing. Print good -> electronically good, but not necessarily > other > > way > > >> around. > > >> > > >> I could set up a visual poll and share multiple time over facebook and > > >> social media. > > >> > > >> > > > http://freeonlinesurveys.com/app/showpoll.asp?qid=244375&sid=xz7athj6ytcg4mb244375&new=True > > >> > > >> Respond with your favourite 3 logo please, or top 2 or 1. The logos > that > > >> score the least will be eliminated: > > >> > > >> 1. Flattened Logo > > >> 2. Kevin G. Flat Feather. > > >> 3. third pick abstained. > > >> > > > > > > I would also include: > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/31818000/OO_4_final_design_Robin-Fowler.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1365884183026 > > > > > > Yes, the feather is a bit too big but it could be made smaller... > > > > > > I guess we work on lettering after the logo? > > > > > > Thanks for all this work by everybody! > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Ian Lynch <ianrly...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >> > > >>> On 13 April 2013 16:25, Graham Lauder <y...@apache.org> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>>> Hi Milos, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 06:45:18PM +0200, Milosh Vujnovic wrote: > > >>>>>> Hi guys, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> just a quick comment and clarification regarding printing and > > >> logos. > > >>>>>> Print-friendly version (vector, CMYK) is crucial to be prepared > > >>>>>> during logo design process. This includes color and black&white > > >>>>>> version (on light and dark background). > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I must disagree with the comments on that printing is rarely used > > >>>>>> anymore - few examples include billboards, fair stands, business > > >>>>>> cards, letterheads and other stationery, and so on. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> But OpenOffice is a desktop application. For me, this means the > main > > >>>>> focus should be in a logo that looks good everywhere where it is > > >> mainly > > >>>>> used, in the user's desktop (even in the window title bar) and the > > >>>>> website (even in the website favicon). Thus, IMHO, printing has the > > >>>>> lowest priority. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Regards > > >>>> > > >>>> I have been keeping out of this conversation because I don't have > time > > >> at > > >>>> the > > >>>> moment to give sufficient focus to OO, but I have been reading the > > list > > >>> as > > >>>> I > > >>>> am able. The above statement however prompts me to respond. > > >>>> > > >>>> The main focus of the logo is to identify and attract. The statement > > >>> above > > >>>> shows a limited understanding of marketing. The advent of computers > > >> has > > >>>> far > > >>>> from given us a paperless office, it has in fact increased paper > usage > > >>> by a > > >>>> huge margin. Print media is a hugely significant part of marketing > > >>>> collateral. Flyers, posters CD sleeves and labels, business cards > > etc. > > >>>> Whenever reviews are printed in magazines there should be a logo > with > > >> the > > >>>> article. Logo is not just about finding OO on a computer, that's an > > >>> icon. > > >>>> > > >>>> The logo should work in print (specifically worst case scenario > which > > >> is > > >>> 4 > > >>>> colour on newsprint) and it will work digitally, the opposite does > not > > >>>> necessarily follow. > > >>>> > > >>>> Cheers > > >>>> GL > > >>>> > > >>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Apart form anything else, why is it so difficult to make a vector > image > > >>> that is good on print and on screen? When something is achievable why > > >>> settle for something less? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> Ian > > >>> > > >>> Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications < > > >>> https://theingots.org/community/faq#7.0> > > >>> > > >>> Headline points in the 2014 and 2015 school league tables > > >>> > > >>> www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 > > >>> > > >>> The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, > > >>> Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. 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