Hi,

I have submitted "the 2022 Season of Docs: Organization Application
form[1]" 2 weeks ago, but I couldn't find related records from this form or
any feedback from organizations.

How to confirm if my submission was successful?

[1]
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSehVjMLUjnoPgS8kX4ErpE76N-KWc3AgrCyCxe7bRrtDm6tew/viewform?pli=1&pli=1

Best Regards!
@ Zhiyuan Ju <https://github.com/juzhiyuan>


Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> 于2022年3月16日周三 17:56写道:

> I  will see Myrle tomorrow in Berlin. Will talk to her :).
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 10:52 AM Roberto Galoppini
> <roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 9:27 AM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Just to summarize the current state for anyone who would like to
> participate.
> >>
> >> 1) We continue to have a discussion in legal-discuss about the way we
> >> could do it and it seems that it is doable.
> >> 2) If anyone else wants to submit their project - GSoD confirmed that
> >> we can make one submission per ASF project (so we are not limited to
> >> one Technical Writer for the whole ASF) - that will have us and Dinesh
> >> happy - but also others might participate.
> >> 3) We have 9 more days for submissions - so if anyone wants to submit
> >> a project, this is now rather likely it might be possible, so start
> >> thinking and preparing your submission now :).
> >> 4) We have two ways how to approach (after discussion with Greg Stein
> >> from infra and some responses from GSoD):
> >>
> >> * From Greg: We should be able to handle mechanics by Infra if needed
> >> * From GSoD: It seems that we could do it all without actually going
> >>   through ASF accounts - we could open an open-collective account. And
> >>   the funds could go through Open Source Collective
> >>   https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/org-payments
> >>
> >> The option with Open Collective seems to be much more straightforward
> >> (especially that we have Roberto on board :) .
> >
> >
> > For now I just presented my candidacy, it's up to the board to take a
> decision on that matter.
> > In any case I'm happy to help Craig or Myrle with that.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Roberto
> >
> >>
> >>  We have discussion at legal-discuss to confirm it:
> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/f386obw4gvdcr1r3myzh58ysr5l9tmpo
> >>
> >> Once I get confirmation, I will establish the mechanics of it and let
> >> everyone know.
> >>
> >> J.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 5:48 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I don't have the link to the programme, but I think the big
> difference 3 years ago was that we could simply sign-up, get the person
> approved and Google Season of Docs managed establishing the "legal"
> relationship and payments. I will ask at the legal-discuss - good idea (I
> will CC: you and Dinesh then.
> >> >
> >> > J.
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 4:57 PM Roberto Galoppini <
> roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:49 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Yeah, The problem is that they now require the organizations to Pay
> (at least in GsOD). So anyone who steps up needs to know first if this is
> at all possible within the ASF as an organisation (when we submit the
> project we confirm that the organisation is OK with accepting the terms, so
> without someone confirming that, it might not be possible.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Roberto,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Maybe - seeing you stepped up as assistant treasurer :) - maybe
> that would be a first thing for you to take a look at ?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Sure Jarek, I'm happy to, even if I didn't have a chance yet to talk
> to Craig and I'm not sure what my involvement would be.
> >> >>
> >> >> I had a look at the available documentation and I guess Legal should
> have the last word on this matter, IANAL at a first glance seems ok to me.
> >> >>
> >> >> In case we'd decide to apply we need to have an OpenCollective
> account and I could definitely help with that, being an OpenCollective host
> myself for a couple of years.
> >> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> We do not know if the new rules from Google Season of Docs are
> possible to handle by the ASF:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs
> >> >>>
> >> >>> How does the current program differ from Season of Docs 2019 and
> 2020?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm not familiar with the program. Do you have any pointers to the
> older versions?
> >> >>
> >> >> Roberto
> >> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The current Season of Docs program has significant changes from
> prior years, including:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> * Technical writers no longer apply through Google to be matched
> with organizations
> >> >>> * Organizations submit project proposals as part of their
> application, including a budget and proposed metrics
> >> >>> * Accepted organizations receive grants, which they use to pay
> technical writers
> >> >>> * Organizations submit final evaluations and case studies
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> J.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 3:06 AM Dinesh Joshi <djo...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Ok all that has changed this year.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> > On Mar 9, 2022, at 5:29 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > I'm  not familiar with current procedure unfortunately
> >> >>>> > In GSOC - Google handles all payments to participants
> >> >>>> > Mentor stipends goes to ASF budget
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 07:59 Dinesh Joshi <djo...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> How do you suggest we manage the logistics of accepting the
> grant and
> >> >>>> >> making payments to the technical writers in various geographys?
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >>> On Mar 9, 2022, at 4:22 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
> solomax...@gmail.com>
> >> >>>> >> wrote:
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> I would suggest someone to step in to be ASF GSoD org admin
> >> >>>> >>> And submit ASF application
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 00:00 Dinesh Joshi <djo...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>> The Cassandra community is also interested in participating
> in GSoD
> >> >>>> >> 2022.
> >> >>>> >>>> But the new rules seem to require ASF-level involvement.
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>>> On Mar 9, 2022, at 3:18 AM, Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>>> >>>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>> BTW. We have time to 25th of March for the submission.
> >> >>>> >>>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:14 PM Jarek Potiuk <
> ja...@potiuk.com>
> >> >>>> >> wrote:
> >> >>>> >>>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>>> Hello,
> >> >>>> >>>>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>>> In Apache Airflow we have some people who have some ideas
> around
> >> >>>> >>>> improving
> >> >>>> >>>>>> our documentation and we would like to participate in
> Google Season of
> >> >>>> >>>> Docs.
> >> >>>> >>>>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>>> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs
> >> >>>> >>>>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>>> We already participated in 2019 and back then it was agreed
> that the
> >> >>>> >>>>>> projects should submit their proposals individually (not as
> Apache
> >> >>>> >>>> Software
> >> >>>> >>>>>> Foundation but as Apache Airflow) because that increased
> the chances
> >> >>>> >> of
> >> >>>> >>>>>> getting more projects (there were limits of projects per
> >> >>>> >> organisation).
> >> >>>> >>>>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>>> However looking at the FAQ [1], there are significant
> changes this
> >> >>>> >> year
> >> >>>> >>>>>> and they require much more of an "organization" to manage -
> i.e.
> >> >>>> >> Google
> >> >>>> >>>>>> will give grants to the organisations, and the
> organizations are
> >> >>>> >>>> supposed
> >> >>>> >>>>>> to pay the writers. So it is much more "formal" and I am
> not sure how
> >> >>>> >> it
> >> >>>> >>>>>> plays with the ASF rules.
> >> >>>> >>>>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>>> Is there anyone who could help with that?
> >> >>>> >>>>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>>> Here is the relevant part from the FAQ:
> >> >>>> >>>>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>>> How does the current program differ from Season of Docs
> 2019 and 2020?
> >> >>>> >>>>>> The current Season of Docs program has significant changes
> from prior
> >> >>>> >>>>>> years, including:
> >> >>>> >>>>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>>> * Technical writers no longer apply through Google to be
> matched with
> >> >>>> >>>>>> organizations
> >> >>>> >>>>>> * Organizations submit project proposals as part of their
> application,
> >> >>>> >>>>>> including a budget and proposed metrics
> >> >>>> >>>>>> * Accepted organizations receive grants, which they use to
> pay
> >> >>>> >> technical
> >> >>>> >>>>>> writers
> >> >>>> >>>>>> * Organizations submit final evaluations and case studies
> >> >>>> >>>>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>>> [1] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/faq
> >> >>>> >>>>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>>> J.
> >> >>>> >>>>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>
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