Just to summarize the current state for anyone who would like to participate.
1) We continue to have a discussion in legal-discuss about the way we could do it and it seems that it is doable. 2) If anyone else wants to submit their project - GSoD confirmed that we can make one submission per ASF project (so we are not limited to one Technical Writer for the whole ASF) - that will have us and Dinesh happy - but also others might participate. 3) We have 9 more days for submissions - so if anyone wants to submit a project, this is now rather likely it might be possible, so start thinking and preparing your submission now :). 4) We have two ways how to approach (after discussion with Greg Stein from infra and some responses from GSoD): * From Greg: We should be able to handle mechanics by Infra if needed * From GSoD: It seems that we could do it all without actually going through ASF accounts - we could open an open-collective account. And the funds could go through Open Source Collective https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/org-payments The option with Open Collective seems to be much more straightforward (especially that we have Roberto on board :) . We have discussion at legal-discuss to confirm it: https://lists.apache.org/thread/f386obw4gvdcr1r3myzh58ysr5l9tmpo Once I get confirmation, I will establish the mechanics of it and let everyone know. J. On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 5:48 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote: > > I don't have the link to the programme, but I think the big difference 3 > years ago was that we could simply sign-up, get the person approved and > Google Season of Docs managed establishing the "legal" relationship and > payments. I will ask at the legal-discuss - good idea (I will CC: you and > Dinesh then. > > J. > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 4:57 PM Roberto Galoppini > <roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:49 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote: >>> >>> Yeah, The problem is that they now require the organizations to Pay (at >>> least in GsOD). So anyone who steps up needs to know first if this is at >>> all possible within the ASF as an organisation (when we submit the project >>> we confirm that the organisation is OK with accepting the terms, so without >>> someone confirming that, it might not be possible. >>> >>> Roberto, >>> >>> Maybe - seeing you stepped up as assistant treasurer :) - maybe that would >>> be a first thing for you to take a look at ? >> >> >> Sure Jarek, I'm happy to, even if I didn't have a chance yet to talk to >> Craig and I'm not sure what my involvement would be. >> >> I had a look at the available documentation and I guess Legal should have >> the last word on this matter, IANAL at a first glance seems ok to me. >> >> In case we'd decide to apply we need to have an OpenCollective account and I >> could definitely help with that, being an OpenCollective host myself for a >> couple of years. >> >>> >>> We do not know if the new rules from Google Season of Docs are possible to >>> handle by the ASF: >>> >>> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs >>> >>> How does the current program differ from Season of Docs 2019 and 2020? >> >> >> I'm not familiar with the program. Do you have any pointers to the older >> versions? >> >> Roberto >> >>> >>> The current Season of Docs program has significant changes from prior >>> years, including: >>> >>> * Technical writers no longer apply through Google to be matched with >>> organizations >>> * Organizations submit project proposals as part of their application, >>> including a budget and proposed metrics >>> * Accepted organizations receive grants, which they use to pay technical >>> writers >>> * Organizations submit final evaluations and case studies >>> >>> >>> J. >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 3:06 AM Dinesh Joshi <djo...@apache.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> Ok all that has changed this year. >>>> >>>> > On Mar 9, 2022, at 5:29 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> >>>> > wrote: >>>> > >>>> > I'm not familiar with current procedure unfortunately >>>> > In GSOC - Google handles all payments to participants >>>> > Mentor stipends goes to ASF budget >>>> > >>>> > from mobile (sorry for typos ;) >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 07:59 Dinesh Joshi <djo...@apache.org> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> How do you suggest we manage the logistics of accepting the grant and >>>> >> making payments to the technical writers in various geographys? >>>> >> >>>> >>> On Mar 9, 2022, at 4:22 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> >>>> >> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> I would suggest someone to step in to be ASF GSoD org admin >>>> >>> And submit ASF application >>>> >>> >>>> >>> from mobile (sorry for typos ;) >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 00:00 Dinesh Joshi <djo...@apache.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The Cassandra community is also interested in participating in GSoD >>>> >> 2022. >>>> >>>> But the new rules seem to require ASF-level involvement. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> On Mar 9, 2022, at 3:18 AM, Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> BTW. We have time to 25th of March for the submission. >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:14 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> >>>> >> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> In Apache Airflow we have some people who have some ideas around >>>> >>>> improving >>>> >>>>>> our documentation and we would like to participate in Google Season >>>> >>>>>> of >>>> >>>> Docs. >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> We already participated in 2019 and back then it was agreed that the >>>> >>>>>> projects should submit their proposals individually (not as Apache >>>> >>>> Software >>>> >>>>>> Foundation but as Apache Airflow) because that increased the chances >>>> >> of >>>> >>>>>> getting more projects (there were limits of projects per >>>> >> organisation). >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> However looking at the FAQ [1], there are significant changes this >>>> >> year >>>> >>>>>> and they require much more of an "organization" to manage - i.e. >>>> >> Google >>>> >>>>>> will give grants to the organisations, and the organizations are >>>> >>>> supposed >>>> >>>>>> to pay the writers. So it is much more "formal" and I am not sure >>>> >>>>>> how >>>> >> it >>>> >>>>>> plays with the ASF rules. >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> Is there anyone who could help with that? >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> Here is the relevant part from the FAQ: >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> How does the current program differ from Season of Docs 2019 and >>>> >>>>>> 2020? >>>> >>>>>> The current Season of Docs program has significant changes from >>>> >>>>>> prior >>>> >>>>>> years, including: >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> * Technical writers no longer apply through Google to be matched >>>> >>>>>> with >>>> >>>>>> organizations >>>> >>>>>> * Organizations submit project proposals as part of their >>>> >>>>>> application, >>>> >>>>>> including a budget and proposed metrics >>>> >>>>>> * Accepted organizations receive grants, which they use to pay >>>> >> technical >>>> >>>>>> writers >>>> >>>>>> * Organizations submit final evaluations and case studies >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> [1] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/faq >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> J. >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org >>>> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org >>>> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
