On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:49 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:

> Yeah, The problem is that they now require the organizations to Pay (at
> least in GsOD). So anyone who steps up needs to know first if this is at
> all possible within the ASF as an organisation (when we submit the project
> we confirm that the organisation is OK with accepting the terms, so without
> someone confirming that, it might not be possible.
>
> Roberto,
>
> Maybe - seeing you stepped up as assistant treasurer :) - maybe that
> would be a first thing for you to take a look at ?
>

Sure Jarek, I'm happy to, even if I didn't have a chance yet to talk to
Craig and I'm not sure what my involvement would be.

I had a look at the available documentation and I guess Legal should have
the last word on this matter, IANAL at a first glance seems ok to me.

In case we'd decide to apply we need to have an OpenCollective account and
I could definitely help with that, being an OpenCollective host myself for
a couple of years.


> We do not know if the new rules from Google Season of Docs are possible to
> handle by the ASF:
>
> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs
>
> How does the current program differ from Season of Docs 2019 and 2020?
>

I'm not familiar with the program. Do you have any pointers to the older
versions?

Roberto


> The current Season of Docs program has significant changes from prior
> years, including:
>
> * Technical writers no longer apply through Google to be matched with
> organizations
> * Organizations submit project proposals as part of their application,
> including a budget and proposed metrics
> * Accepted organizations receive grants, which they use to pay technical
> writers
> * Organizations submit final evaluations and case studies
>
>
> J.
>
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 3:06 AM Dinesh Joshi <djo...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Ok all that has changed this year.
>>
>> > On Mar 9, 2022, at 5:29 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm  not familiar with current procedure unfortunately
>> > In GSOC - Google handles all payments to participants
>> > Mentor stipends goes to ASF budget
>> >
>> > from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 07:59 Dinesh Joshi <djo...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> How do you suggest we manage the logistics of accepting the grant and
>> >> making payments to the technical writers in various geographys?
>> >>
>> >>> On Mar 9, 2022, at 4:22 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I would suggest someone to step in to be ASF GSoD org admin
>> >>> And submit ASF application
>> >>>
>> >>> from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 00:00 Dinesh Joshi <djo...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The Cassandra community is also interested in participating in GSoD
>> >> 2022.
>> >>>> But the new rules seem to require ASF-level involvement.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>> On Mar 9, 2022, at 3:18 AM, Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> BTW. We have time to 25th of March for the submission.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:14 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Hello,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> In Apache Airflow we have some people who have some ideas around
>> >>>> improving
>> >>>>>> our documentation and we would like to participate in Google
>> Season of
>> >>>> Docs.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> We already participated in 2019 and back then it was agreed that
>> the
>> >>>>>> projects should submit their proposals individually (not as Apache
>> >>>> Software
>> >>>>>> Foundation but as Apache Airflow) because that increased the
>> chances
>> >> of
>> >>>>>> getting more projects (there were limits of projects per
>> >> organisation).
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> However looking at the FAQ [1], there are significant changes this
>> >> year
>> >>>>>> and they require much more of an "organization" to manage - i.e.
>> >> Google
>> >>>>>> will give grants to the organisations, and the organizations are
>> >>>> supposed
>> >>>>>> to pay the writers. So it is much more "formal" and I am not sure
>> how
>> >> it
>> >>>>>> plays with the ASF rules.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Is there anyone who could help with that?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Here is the relevant part from the FAQ:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> How does the current program differ from Season of Docs 2019 and
>> 2020?
>> >>>>>> The current Season of Docs program has significant changes from
>> prior
>> >>>>>> years, including:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> * Technical writers no longer apply through Google to be matched
>> with
>> >>>>>> organizations
>> >>>>>> * Organizations submit project proposals as part of their
>> application,
>> >>>>>> including a budget and proposed metrics
>> >>>>>> * Accepted organizations receive grants, which they use to pay
>> >> technical
>> >>>>>> writers
>> >>>>>> * Organizations submit final evaluations and case studies
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> [1] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/faq
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> J.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
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