On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 9:27 AM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
> Just to summarize the current state for anyone who would like to > participate. > > 1) We continue to have a discussion in legal-discuss about the way we > could do it and it seems that it is doable. > 2) If anyone else wants to submit their project - GSoD confirmed that > we can make one submission per ASF project (so we are not limited to > one Technical Writer for the whole ASF) - that will have us and Dinesh > happy - but also others might participate. > 3) We have 9 more days for submissions - so if anyone wants to submit > a project, this is now rather likely it might be possible, so start > thinking and preparing your submission now :). > 4) We have two ways how to approach (after discussion with Greg Stein > from infra and some responses from GSoD): > > * From Greg: We should be able to handle mechanics by Infra if needed > * From GSoD: It seems that we could do it all without actually going > through ASF accounts - we could open an open-collective account. And > the funds could go through Open Source Collective > https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/org-payments > > The option with Open Collective seems to be much more straightforward > (especially that we have Roberto on board :) . > For now I just presented my candidacy, it's up to the board to take a decision on that matter. In any case I'm happy to help Craig or Myrle with that. Best, Roberto > We have discussion at legal-discuss to confirm it: > https://lists.apache.org/thread/f386obw4gvdcr1r3myzh58ysr5l9tmpo > > Once I get confirmation, I will establish the mechanics of it and let > everyone know. > > J. > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 5:48 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote: > > > > I don't have the link to the programme, but I think the big difference 3 > years ago was that we could simply sign-up, get the person approved and > Google Season of Docs managed establishing the "legal" relationship and > payments. I will ask at the legal-discuss - good idea (I will CC: you and > Dinesh then. > > > > J. > > > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 4:57 PM Roberto Galoppini < > roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:49 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Yeah, The problem is that they now require the organizations to Pay > (at least in GsOD). So anyone who steps up needs to know first if this is > at all possible within the ASF as an organisation (when we submit the > project we confirm that the organisation is OK with accepting the terms, so > without someone confirming that, it might not be possible. > >>> > >>> Roberto, > >>> > >>> Maybe - seeing you stepped up as assistant treasurer :) - maybe that > would be a first thing for you to take a look at ? > >> > >> > >> Sure Jarek, I'm happy to, even if I didn't have a chance yet to talk to > Craig and I'm not sure what my involvement would be. > >> > >> I had a look at the available documentation and I guess Legal should > have the last word on this matter, IANAL at a first glance seems ok to me. > >> > >> In case we'd decide to apply we need to have an OpenCollective account > and I could definitely help with that, being an OpenCollective host myself > for a couple of years. > >> > >>> > >>> We do not know if the new rules from Google Season of Docs are > possible to handle by the ASF: > >>> > >>> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs > >>> > >>> How does the current program differ from Season of Docs 2019 and 2020? > >> > >> > >> I'm not familiar with the program. Do you have any pointers to the > older versions? > >> > >> Roberto > >> > >>> > >>> The current Season of Docs program has significant changes from prior > years, including: > >>> > >>> * Technical writers no longer apply through Google to be matched with > organizations > >>> * Organizations submit project proposals as part of their application, > including a budget and proposed metrics > >>> * Accepted organizations receive grants, which they use to pay > technical writers > >>> * Organizations submit final evaluations and case studies > >>> > >>> > >>> J. > >>> > >>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 3:06 AM Dinesh Joshi <djo...@apache.org> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Ok all that has changed this year. > >>>> > >>>> > On Mar 9, 2022, at 5:29 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>> > > >>>> > I'm not familiar with current procedure unfortunately > >>>> > In GSOC - Google handles all payments to participants > >>>> > Mentor stipends goes to ASF budget > >>>> > > >>>> > from mobile (sorry for typos ;) > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 07:59 Dinesh Joshi <djo...@apache.org> > wrote: > >>>> >> > >>>> >> How do you suggest we manage the logistics of accepting the grant > and > >>>> >> making payments to the technical writers in various geographys? > >>>> >> > >>>> >>> On Mar 9, 2022, at 4:22 PM, Maxim Solodovnik < > solomax...@gmail.com> > >>>> >> wrote: > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> I would suggest someone to step in to be ASF GSoD org admin > >>>> >>> And submit ASF application > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> from mobile (sorry for typos ;) > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 00:00 Dinesh Joshi <djo...@apache.org> > wrote: > >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> The Cassandra community is also interested in participating in > GSoD > >>>> >> 2022. > >>>> >>>> But the new rules seem to require ASF-level involvement. > >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>>>> On Mar 9, 2022, at 3:18 AM, Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> > wrote: > >>>> >>>>> > >>>> >>>>> BTW. We have time to 25th of March for the submission. > >>>> >>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:14 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com > > > >>>> >> wrote: > >>>> >>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> Hello, > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> In Apache Airflow we have some people who have some ideas > around > >>>> >>>> improving > >>>> >>>>>> our documentation and we would like to participate in Google > Season of > >>>> >>>> Docs. > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> We already participated in 2019 and back then it was agreed > that the > >>>> >>>>>> projects should submit their proposals individually (not as > Apache > >>>> >>>> Software > >>>> >>>>>> Foundation but as Apache Airflow) because that increased the > chances > >>>> >> of > >>>> >>>>>> getting more projects (there were limits of projects per > >>>> >> organisation). > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> However looking at the FAQ [1], there are significant changes > this > >>>> >> year > >>>> >>>>>> and they require much more of an "organization" to manage - > i.e. > >>>> >> Google > >>>> >>>>>> will give grants to the organisations, and the organizations > are > >>>> >>>> supposed > >>>> >>>>>> to pay the writers. So it is much more "formal" and I am not > sure how > >>>> >> it > >>>> >>>>>> plays with the ASF rules. > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> Is there anyone who could help with that? > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> Here is the relevant part from the FAQ: > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> How does the current program differ from Season of Docs 2019 > and 2020? > >>>> >>>>>> The current Season of Docs program has significant changes > from prior > >>>> >>>>>> years, including: > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> * Technical writers no longer apply through Google to be > matched with > >>>> >>>>>> organizations > >>>> >>>>>> * Organizations submit project proposals as part of their > application, > >>>> >>>>>> including a budget and proposed metrics > >>>> >>>>>> * Accepted organizations receive grants, which they use to pay > >>>> >> technical > >>>> >>>>>> writers > >>>> >>>>>> * Organizations submit final evaluations and case studies > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> [1] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/faq > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> J. > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > >>>> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > >>>> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > >>>> >
