I will see Myrle tomorrow in Berlin. Will talk to her :). On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 10:52 AM Roberto Galoppini <roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 9:27 AM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote: >> >> Just to summarize the current state for anyone who would like to participate. >> >> 1) We continue to have a discussion in legal-discuss about the way we >> could do it and it seems that it is doable. >> 2) If anyone else wants to submit their project - GSoD confirmed that >> we can make one submission per ASF project (so we are not limited to >> one Technical Writer for the whole ASF) - that will have us and Dinesh >> happy - but also others might participate. >> 3) We have 9 more days for submissions - so if anyone wants to submit >> a project, this is now rather likely it might be possible, so start >> thinking and preparing your submission now :). >> 4) We have two ways how to approach (after discussion with Greg Stein >> from infra and some responses from GSoD): >> >> * From Greg: We should be able to handle mechanics by Infra if needed >> * From GSoD: It seems that we could do it all without actually going >> through ASF accounts - we could open an open-collective account. And >> the funds could go through Open Source Collective >> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/org-payments >> >> The option with Open Collective seems to be much more straightforward >> (especially that we have Roberto on board :) . > > > For now I just presented my candidacy, it's up to the board to take a > decision on that matter. > In any case I'm happy to help Craig or Myrle with that. > > Best, > > Roberto > >> >> We have discussion at legal-discuss to confirm it: >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/f386obw4gvdcr1r3myzh58ysr5l9tmpo >> >> Once I get confirmation, I will establish the mechanics of it and let >> everyone know. >> >> J. >> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 5:48 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote: >> > >> > I don't have the link to the programme, but I think the big difference 3 >> > years ago was that we could simply sign-up, get the person approved and >> > Google Season of Docs managed establishing the "legal" relationship and >> > payments. I will ask at the legal-discuss - good idea (I will CC: you and >> > Dinesh then. >> > >> > J. >> > >> > On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 4:57 PM Roberto Galoppini >> > <roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:49 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Yeah, The problem is that they now require the organizations to Pay (at >> >>> least in GsOD). So anyone who steps up needs to know first if this is at >> >>> all possible within the ASF as an organisation (when we submit the >> >>> project we confirm that the organisation is OK with accepting the terms, >> >>> so without someone confirming that, it might not be possible. >> >>> >> >>> Roberto, >> >>> >> >>> Maybe - seeing you stepped up as assistant treasurer :) - maybe that >> >>> would be a first thing for you to take a look at ? >> >> >> >> >> >> Sure Jarek, I'm happy to, even if I didn't have a chance yet to talk to >> >> Craig and I'm not sure what my involvement would be. >> >> >> >> I had a look at the available documentation and I guess Legal should have >> >> the last word on this matter, IANAL at a first glance seems ok to me. >> >> >> >> In case we'd decide to apply we need to have an OpenCollective account >> >> and I could definitely help with that, being an OpenCollective host >> >> myself for a couple of years. >> >> >> >>> >> >>> We do not know if the new rules from Google Season of Docs are possible >> >>> to handle by the ASF: >> >>> >> >>> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs >> >>> >> >>> How does the current program differ from Season of Docs 2019 and 2020? >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm not familiar with the program. Do you have any pointers to the older >> >> versions? >> >> >> >> Roberto >> >> >> >>> >> >>> The current Season of Docs program has significant changes from prior >> >>> years, including: >> >>> >> >>> * Technical writers no longer apply through Google to be matched with >> >>> organizations >> >>> * Organizations submit project proposals as part of their application, >> >>> including a budget and proposed metrics >> >>> * Accepted organizations receive grants, which they use to pay technical >> >>> writers >> >>> * Organizations submit final evaluations and case studies >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> J. >> >>> >> >>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 3:06 AM Dinesh Joshi <djo...@apache.org> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Ok all that has changed this year. >> >>>> >> >>>> > On Mar 9, 2022, at 5:29 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> >> >>>> > wrote: >> >>>> > >> >>>> > I'm not familiar with current procedure unfortunately >> >>>> > In GSOC - Google handles all payments to participants >> >>>> > Mentor stipends goes to ASF budget >> >>>> > >> >>>> > from mobile (sorry for typos ;) >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 07:59 Dinesh Joshi <djo...@apache.org> wrote: >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> How do you suggest we manage the logistics of accepting the grant and >> >>>> >> making payments to the technical writers in various geographys? >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >>> On Mar 9, 2022, at 4:22 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> >> >>>> >> wrote: >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> I would suggest someone to step in to be ASF GSoD org admin >> >>>> >>> And submit ASF application >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> from mobile (sorry for typos ;) >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 00:00 Dinesh Joshi <djo...@apache.org> wrote: >> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> The Cassandra community is also interested in participating in GSoD >> >>>> >> 2022. >> >>>> >>>> But the new rules seem to require ASF-level involvement. >> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> On Mar 9, 2022, at 3:18 AM, Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> >> >>>> >>>>>> wrote: >> >>>> >>>>> >> >>>> >>>>> BTW. We have time to 25th of March for the submission. >> >>>> >>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:14 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> >> >>>> >> wrote: >> >>>> >>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> Hello, >> >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> In Apache Airflow we have some people who have some ideas around >> >>>> >>>> improving >> >>>> >>>>>> our documentation and we would like to participate in Google >> >>>> >>>>>> Season of >> >>>> >>>> Docs. >> >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs >> >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> We already participated in 2019 and back then it was agreed that >> >>>> >>>>>> the >> >>>> >>>>>> projects should submit their proposals individually (not as >> >>>> >>>>>> Apache >> >>>> >>>> Software >> >>>> >>>>>> Foundation but as Apache Airflow) because that increased the >> >>>> >>>>>> chances >> >>>> >> of >> >>>> >>>>>> getting more projects (there were limits of projects per >> >>>> >> organisation). >> >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> However looking at the FAQ [1], there are significant changes >> >>>> >>>>>> this >> >>>> >> year >> >>>> >>>>>> and they require much more of an "organization" to manage - i.e. >> >>>> >> Google >> >>>> >>>>>> will give grants to the organisations, and the organizations are >> >>>> >>>> supposed >> >>>> >>>>>> to pay the writers. So it is much more "formal" and I am not >> >>>> >>>>>> sure how >> >>>> >> it >> >>>> >>>>>> plays with the ASF rules. >> >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> Is there anyone who could help with that? >> >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> Here is the relevant part from the FAQ: >> >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> How does the current program differ from Season of Docs 2019 and >> >>>> >>>>>> 2020? >> >>>> >>>>>> The current Season of Docs program has significant changes from >> >>>> >>>>>> prior >> >>>> >>>>>> years, including: >> >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> * Technical writers no longer apply through Google to be matched >> >>>> >>>>>> with >> >>>> >>>>>> organizations >> >>>> >>>>>> * Organizations submit project proposals as part of their >> >>>> >>>>>> application, >> >>>> >>>>>> including a budget and proposed metrics >> >>>> >>>>>> * Accepted organizations receive grants, which they use to pay >> >>>> >> technical >> >>>> >>>>>> writers >> >>>> >>>>>> * Organizations submit final evaluations and case studies >> >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> [1] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/faq >> >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> J. >> >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org >> >>>> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org >> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>>> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org >> >>>> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org >> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org >> >>>>
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