Thanks for your input. “I don’t like it” is your only reason?
Perhaps we should get rid of the corporate thank you page? On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 1:47 PM Daniel Ferradal <dferra...@apache.org> wrote: > Hello, > > In my humble opinion, I don't like labels, medals, awards, bands, > distinctions, badges, ribbons, stars, trophies or anything similar > that distinguish anyone from any other. As I see it, it's a form of > manipulation to persuade people to achieve more than they might want > and may probably lead to people feeling better than others or just the > opposite, which is worse. > > ASF being what it is, all volunteers doing whatever they can or want, > time, life, family or will permits, but a necessary few that work > professionally to maintain operation, I don't like the idea of using > this kind of "corporate encouragement". > > I understand the idea behind this is probably well meant, but that > does not make me like it anyway. > > Cheers. > > El lun, 5 abr 2021 a las 18:06, Matthew Sacks > (<matt...@matthewsacks.com>) escribió: > > > > If I can get a vm as you suggested I’m happy to start a PoC. > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 8:52 AM Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/5/21 10:46 AM, Matthew Sacks wrote: > > > > So far response has been more yay than nay. > > > > > > > > Next steps to turn this into a teak initiative? > > > > > > > > Vote? > > > > > > > > Podling setup or is this going to be an Infra service? > > > > > > There are, I believe, two possible ways forward here: > > > > > > 1) We request a VM from infra, and someone volunteers to stand this up > > > and maintain it. > > > > > > 2) We persuade Infra that this is a necessary service that they should > > > host for the Foundation. > > > > > > My recommendation would be to go route 1 to start, and then judge, > based > > > on adoption, whether 2 is justified. The problem with 1, of course, is > > > that it requires a volunteer who is willing to move forward with it and > > > keep it alive. > > > > > > > > > > > The https://www.badgr.org looks like a good way to implement, maybe. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 7:25 AM Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >> This sounds cool! > > > >> > > > >> On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 at 08:20, lidong dai <dailidon...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> wow, I like this idea very much! > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Best Regards > > > >>> --------------- > > > >>> DolphinScheduler PMC chair > > > >>> Lidong Dai > > > >>> dailidon...@gmail.com > > > >>> --------------- > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 9:16 PM Matthew Sacks < > matt...@matthewsacks.com > > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>> Note text: “something like”. I didn’t advocate using NFT’s > themselves. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 5:43 AM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> > wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> AaaaH .. No NFT please :). > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> J. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 2:30 PM Matthew Sacks < > > > >> matt...@matthewsacks.com> > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> Does Badgr have some kind of certification method to validate > the > > > >> badge > > > >>>>>> authenticity? > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> I was thinking something like NFT’s for the badge graphic. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 5:26 AM Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> > > > >> wrote: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> On 4/5/21 8:19 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > > > >>>>>>>> I had a similar idea some years back, but with a slightly more > > > >>>>>>>> tongue-in-cheek approach. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Some sample "merits" I had in mind then: > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> - 1,000 commits within a year > > > >>>>>>>> - 5,000 commits in total > > > >>>>>>>> - 1,000 emails to our lists > > > >>>>>>>> - Annoyed Sally more than 5 times > > > >>>>>>>> - Caused at least one CVE > > > >>>>>>>> - *Fixed* at least that one CVE... > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Well, you can see what I'm talking about. It's probably not > > > >> what > > > >>>> many > > > >>>>>>>> people would be wanting... :p (I would tick all the above > > > >> boxes > > > >>>>> btw!) > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> But activity-based merits could be a fun comdev projects. We > > > >> have > > > >>>>>> access > > > >>>>>>>> to the stats through Kibble, so we could auto-generate a bunch > > > >> of > > > >>>>> them. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Elsewhere in the thread I mention https://www.badgr.org/ which > > > >> has a > > > >>>>>>> small advantage that it already exists and has an active > > > >> developer > > > >>>>>>> community. I wonder what ability there is to feed data from > > > >> Kibble > > > >>>> into > > > >>>>>>> Badgr. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> And I think I qualify for the "Annoyed Sally" badge a *bunch* > of > > > >>>> times > > > >>>>>>> over. :D > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> --Rich > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> On 05/04/2021 14.10, Jarek Potiuk wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>> I like the idea. > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> It's very similar to what has already been done at the > > > >> ApacheCon > > > >>>>> every > > > >>>>>>>>> year. you got the "badges" that you could attach to your > > > >> generic > > > >>>>>>>>> "conference badge". > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/wusheng1108/status/1171101885664595968 > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> J. > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 1:43 PM Liu Ted > > > >> <tedl...@yahoo.com.invalid > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> I like this idea. > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Ted Liu > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> 在 2021 年 4月 月 5 日週一，時間：16:42 ， Matthew Sacks > > > >>>>>>>>>> <matt...@matthewsacks.com> > > > >>>>>>>>>> 寫道： Summary: Digital Merit badges > > > >>>>>>>>>> ASF participation and responsibility are based on merit. So > > > >> like > > > >>>>>> other > > > >>>>>>>>>> merit-based organizations, why not have a digital merit > > > >> badge. It > > > >>>>>> would > > > >>>>>>>>>> slow your name and summarize your involvement and > > > >> contributions > > > >>>>>>>>>> (volunteer, > > > >>>>>>>>>> committer, member, board member, founding member, etc.). > > > >>>>>>>>>> Also, what projects you work on. > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Other examples of design: Trust Certification badges: > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > https://trustarc.com/truste-certifications/enterprise-privacy-certification/ > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> What it’s not: social score, that’s not what I’m proposing. > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> If an ASF member, committee, and volunteer involvement are > > > >> based > > > >>>> on > > > >>>>>>>>>> merit, > > > >>>>>>>>>> why not have a digital merit badge that shows what they’ve > > > >> done? > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Like other organizations based on merit, there are usually > > > >> badges > > > >>>>>>>>>> recognizing one's contributions to that contributor. > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> I’m thinking to list the following on the badge: > > > >>>>>>>>>> - committer, member, volunteer, board member, founder, etc > > > >>>>>>>>>> - year joined > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> If you click the badge, it will take you to a profile page > > > >> with: > > > >>>>>>>>>> - Projects they contribute/contributed to > > > >>>>>>>>>> - Apachcon participation, presentations, etc > > > >>>>>>>>>> - Apache.org personal homepage (if they have one) > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> From a marketing perspective, it also expands the ASF > > > >> “brand” > > > >>>> and > > > >>>>>>>>>> reputation. You have many of the best software engineers and > > > >> IT > > > >>>>>>>>>> professionals in the world helping make better software > > > >> available > > > >>>>> to > > > >>>>>>>>>> commercial companies as well as public organizations and > > > >>>>> individuals > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> If LinkedIn displayed a dynamically generated badge > > > >> validated by > > > >>>> an > > > >>>>>>>>>> ASF-hosted infra API (blockchain validated) on Roy Fielding > > > >> or > > > >>>>>> JimJag’s > > > >>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn page, for example, wouldn’t that be of interest in > > > >>>>> expanding > > > >>>>>>>>>> ASF > > > >>>>>>>>>> reach? It could increase volunteering, donations, page > > > >> views, and > > > >>>>>> more > > > >>>>>>>>>> benefits. > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Not just LinkedIn, but maybe RedHat, Microsoft, maybe Apple > > > >>>>> (probably > > > >>>>>>>>>> not), > > > >>>>>>>>>> Oracle, IBM, AWS, Google could get a Platinum sponsor badge > > > >> to > > > >>>> show > > > >>>>>>>>>> their > > > >>>>>>>>>> pride for supporting the ASF as a major corporation. More > > > >>>>>>>>>> corporations will > > > >>>>>>>>>> follow suit. > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Thoughts? > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>>>>> Thank you, Matthew > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > > > >>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > dev-h...@community.apache.org > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>> Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com > > > >>>>>>> @rbowen > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > > > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>> Thank you, Matthew > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> -- > > > >>>>> +48 660 796 129 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> -- > > > >>>> Thank you, Matthew > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > > Thank you, Matthew > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Rich Bowen > > > rbo...@rcbowen.com > > > > > -- > > Thank you, Matthew > > > > -- > Daniel Ferradal > HTTPD Project > #httpd help at Freenode > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > -- Thank you, Matthew
