On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks Niall a lot. One last question for the sandbox project - if
>  approved - can I help you in creating whatever required for that
>  project, I just want to learn how these things are made :), I mean
>  steap related to creating new projects and so .

Acutally, I think if you get Karma then you can do it yourself - I was
just going to create a validator2 directory here:
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/sandbox/

and then copy the validator trunk.

Niall

>  On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Niall Pemberton
>
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
>  >
>  > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  > > Hi simon...
>  >  >
>  >  >   Thanks a lot :), but I like the idea of Naill, that is make a
>  >  >  sandbox project for Validator2, so I can work away from the release
>  >  >  process of the current implementation of validator - Validator1, and
>  >  >  when I have a working thing, we can get it out of sandbox to commons
>  >  >  proper as part of the main Validator project, so people can have 2
>  >  >  falvours of Validator either 1/2. What do you think Naill ??
>  >
>  >  Yes I'm happy with that. I'll leave it a couple of days, to give other
>  >  people a chance to give opnions - but if there are no objections/other
>  >  proposals then I'll go ahead and set that up in the Sandbox. For
>  >  sandbox access I think its just a case of pinging the list (probably
>  >  best in another thread, as it might get missed in this one) to ask for
>  >  Sandbox karma for yourself and your MyFaces colleague.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >  Niall
>  >
>  >  >
>  >  >  On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 5:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >  >  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >  >  > Hi Mohammed,
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  One of the purposes of the commons project is to pool the work of 
> other
>  >  >  >  commons projects, ie extract bits out of other projects that can be 
> more
>  >  >  >  widely applied. Therefore, the commons project is pretty open to
>  >  >  >  existing committers on other Apache projects getting commit access 
> to
>  >  >  >  commons.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  As long as the PMC/existing validator developers are happy with the
>  >  >  >  general idea, I think it likely that you (and any other interested
>  >  >  >  apache committers) would just be granted commit access to apply 
> changes
>  >  >  >  yourself.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  Regards,
>  >  >  >  Simon
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  Mohammad Nour El-Din schrieb:
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  > > Sorry for the last stupid question I could have know it from site, 
> but
>  >  >  >  > one more - I hope not stupid - question, you will apply the 
> Validator2
>  >  >  >  > code in trunk and make old validator in a separate branch ???
>  >  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Niall Pemberton
>  >  >  >  > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  >> On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
>  >  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >  >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >  >>> Just to make sure, this is where trunk code exist
>  >  >  >  >>>
>  >  >  >  >>  >
>  >  >  >  >>  >  
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/proper/validator/trunk/
>  >  >  >  >>  >
>  >  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >  >>  Yes
>  >  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >  >>  Niall
>  >  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >  >>  >
>  >  >  >  >>  >  On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
>  >  >  >  >>  >
>  >  >  >  >>  > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >  >  >  >>  >
>  >  >  >  >>  >
>  >  >  >  >>  > > I skimmed over the JSR - not a detailed look actually - and 
> through
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  using annotations you declare the validator class, so we 
> can adapt the
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  current validators, or at least make minor changes to 
> make them
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  suitable to be used through JSR#303/Validator2 impl. I 
> will download
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  the code today and take a more detailed look at JSR PDF 
> and if I found
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  more info I will send them back by the end of this week.
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Niall Pemberton
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  > Hi All...
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >   Recently an EDR JSR#303 has been published on JCP -
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=303 . They intend 
> to make a unified
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  Bean Validation APIs/Framework based on using 
> annotations and XML
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  configuration files, and they define the way how to 
> apply and use
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  validation, and it will be part of the Java Beans 
> model.
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  I am a committer in Apache OpenEJB, and we need 
> such functionality for
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  bean validation through the process of deploying an 
> enterprise java
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  bean - we have a home made validation framework 
> now. And I have a
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  colleague of mine who is working in Apache MyFaces 
> Tomahawk-
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  http://myfaces.apache.org/tomahawk/index.html - and 
> he is interested
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  in such functionality to apply validation regarding 
> JSF.
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  My colleague and I are very interested in 
> implementing this JSR in
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  Apache Commons Validator, but seems that the 
> project is not active for
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  a while, so I am asking how our changes are going 
> to be applied to
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  Commons Validator. I mean are we going to submit 
> changes in patches
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  and someone will review and commit - but no one is 
> active now to do
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  that. Or I can get a committer access to apply 
> changes and review
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  patches submitted by my colleague. Please advice 
> and help.
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  Do you have an idea how you want to do this in Commons 
> Validator?
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  Specifically I'm wondering whether this would be a 
> re-write or whether
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  you think the exisiting framework could be adapated to 
> JSR 303? My
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  thinking was that implementing JSR 303 would involved 
> and
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  brand-new-replacement for the existing framework - 
> Validator2.
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  Niall
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  P.S. I need your reply ASAP to stat planning and 
> coordination with my colleague.
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >
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>  >  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  >
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