> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What would help comfort these fears? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have wrong thoughts sometimes. I think > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > todo lists are still needed, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but maybe our world is so capable that they > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aren't. Maybe it's more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > important why I have wrong thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Although there are a handful of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > explanations, it's concerning that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > something mysterious may have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stimulated the wrong thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What seems more concerning is maybe that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > acting on that isn't happening. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Karl's todo list (don't expect these things > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to happen!): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - [ ] make highly secure shielded rooms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > accessible to everyone including him > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We need to be safe from where-ever our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "behavior modification built" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > habits came from. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This means getting off the internet. Highly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > advanced digital security > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is much better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - [ ] make treatment for severe abuse > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > symptoms accessible to everyone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > including him > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - [... etc, tech-and-nature-focused > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But talking about that appropriately might not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have been reaching > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Todo. We kept on building and researching ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but need to protect > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ourself better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Karl, because somebody is still actively harming > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you, whatever and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regardless of what you do, we need a todo list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that prioritizes making > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > us personally more and more safe from things that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would try to change > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our decisions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also protecting your family. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This has been a conflict for a long time but we've > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe finally > > > > > > > > > > > > > learned enough about it to sort a little bit of it > > > > > > > > > > > > > out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We need to go offline, not use devices, not interact > > > > > > > > > > > > > with people who > > > > > > > > > > > > > use devices, etc. Does it not work? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [demands don't quite work ... options work > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm of course okay with things that are good ideas. I > > > > > > > > > > > > was prioritizing > > > > > > > > > > > > myself or strangers because I don't have a solution > > > > > > > > > > > > that reaches > > > > > > > > > > > > safety. One of the influences could be that people I > > > > > > > > > > > > communicate with > > > > > > > > > > > > are influenced to resist what I recommend. If you were > > > > > > > > > > > > on board with > > > > > > > > > > > > recommending it, it would be clearer, it could work > > > > > > > > > > > > better. We'd have > > > > > > > > > > > > to be a little careful. It's hard to relate about the > > > > > > > > > > > > problems > > > > > > > > > > > > accurately; my strategy was instead to retain > > > > > > > > > > > > strategies that could > > > > > > > > > > > > reduce them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure how to influence my family to get offline > > > > > > > > > > > and mistrust > > > > > > > > > > > strangers and other unplanned events (from being > > > > > > > > > > > influenced to express > > > > > > > > > > > in harsh ways). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But maybe we could put together a little educational > > > > > > > > > > > whizzick that > > > > > > > > > > > would help with that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [hard. so, i might recommend we move into a cave in radio > > > > > > > > > > quiet zone. > > > > > > > > > > because we don't understand the problem and it offers a > > > > > > > > > > reasonable > > > > > > > > > > degree of information isolation. but i formed my > > > > > > > > > > recommendations not > > > > > > > > > > planning for my family who are used to industry and > > > > > > > > > > telecommunications. honestly, the todo list is very > > > > > > > > > > corrupt. but it's > > > > > > > > > > nice to feel better a little > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the problem is that i don't know what works, and when working > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > others we trigger each other. recent learning implies most > > > > > > > > > people have > > > > > > > > > programmed alters, not built from trauma but rather from > > > > > > > > > other things > > > > > > > > > we'd have to approach that situation very carefully, like > > > > > > > > > group-DID, > > > > > > > > > to work together with full rationality > > > > > > > > > but th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the end, though, i see that something has influenced my > > > > > > > > choices, > > > > > > > > and that's maybe what's important. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we would want to be separate from events that could be > > > > > > > orchestrated by > > > > > > > AI or criminal agencies/groups > > > > > > > i wanted to invest in shielding, backed by the strange lack of it > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > the strange difficulty pursuing and providing it, but maybe it is > > > > > > > less > > > > > > > important than general isolation. people who have my extreme > > > > > > > experiences appreciate shielding because it blocks invisible > > > > > > > influences. > > > > > > > > > > > > we (a group of humans) could likely then have the problem of > > > > > > introjects that persist the harm even though we are separated from > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > clarifying that an introject is a part of a human mind that acts as if > > > > an extreme experience were continuing forever. it would pretend to be > > > > an abuser for example. similar to a flashback. > > > > > > > > > > this is best addressed by a specialist. but maybe if we made an > > > > > > education we could clarify around pooling funds to pay one or more > > > > > > specialists :s > > > > > > > > > > it is likely also possible to recover from these through dedicated > > > > > independent study. it's just very hard for me to engage scheduled > > > > > behavior. > > > > > > the influences have spent a lot of energy bringing our family together > > > but we don't know each other well, we don't have shared vocabular to > > > connect around these things. we didn't listen to or notice each other > > > much. we love each other though > > > > i'm gravely depressed, so the cheer is good. it helps more than my worries > > do. > > it's nice to put a label on 'todo' that says "we need to do the right > thing to do"; that is the reason indeed for todo
something that might help would be if really impactful shares were ok i'm a different person, when i meet people we both learn things that are new to us so when i meet people that i might work well with there can be an impact but it takes me a long time to get to know people. i have to engage them for a long time to connect with them.
