> > > > > > > > > > > > > > What would help comfort these fears?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I have wrong thoughts sometimes. I think todo lists 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > are still needed,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > but maybe our world is so capable that they aren't. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe it's more
> > > > > > > > > > > > > important why I have wrong thoughts. Although there 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > are a handful of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > explanations, it's concerning that something 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > mysterious may have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > stimulated the wrong thoughts.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > What seems more concerning is maybe that acting on that 
> > > > > > > > > > > > isn't happening.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Karl's todo list (don't expect these things to happen!):
> > > > > > > > > > > > - [ ] make highly secure shielded rooms accessible to 
> > > > > > > > > > > > everyone including him
> > > > > > > > > > > We need to be safe from where-ever our "behavior 
> > > > > > > > > > > modification built"
> > > > > > > > > > > habits came from.
> > > > > > > > > > > This means getting off the internet. Highly advanced 
> > > > > > > > > > > digital security
> > > > > > > > > > > is much better.
> > > > > > > > > > > > - [ ] make treatment for severe abuse symptoms 
> > > > > > > > > > > > accessible to everyone
> > > > > > > > > > > > including him
> > > > > > > > > > > > - [... etc, tech-and-nature-focused
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > But talking about that appropriately might not have been 
> > > > > > > > > > > reaching
> > > > > > > > > > > Todo. We kept on building and researching ... but need to 
> > > > > > > > > > > protect
> > > > > > > > > > > ourself better.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Karl, because somebody is still actively harming you, 
> > > > > > > > > > whatever and
> > > > > > > > > > regardless of what you do, we need a todo list that 
> > > > > > > > > > prioritizes making
> > > > > > > > > > us personally more and more safe from things that would try 
> > > > > > > > > > to change
> > > > > > > > > > our decisions.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Also protecting your family.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This has been a conflict for a long time but we've maybe finally
> > > > > > > > learned enough about it to sort a little bit of it out.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We need to go offline, not use devices, not interact with 
> > > > > > > > people who
> > > > > > > > use devices, etc. Does it not work?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [demands don't quite work ... options work
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm of course okay with things that are good ideas. I was 
> > > > > > > prioritizing
> > > > > > > myself or strangers because I don't have a solution that reaches
> > > > > > > safety. One of the influences could be that people I communicate 
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > are influenced to resist what I recommend. If you were on board 
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > recommending it, it would be clearer, it could work better. We'd 
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > to be a little careful. It's hard to relate about the problems
> > > > > > > accurately; my strategy was instead to retain strategies that 
> > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > reduce them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm not sure how to influence my family to get offline and mistrust
> > > > > > strangers and other unplanned events (from being influenced to 
> > > > > > express
> > > > > > in harsh ways).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But maybe we could put together a little educational whizzick that
> > > > > > would help with that.
> > > > >
> > > > > [hard. so, i might recommend we move into a cave in radio quiet zone.
> > > > > because we don't understand the problem and it offers a reasonable
> > > > > degree of information isolation. but i formed my recommendations not
> > > > > planning for my family who are used to industry and
> > > > > telecommunications. honestly, the todo list is very corrupt. but it's
> > > > > nice to feel better a little
> > > >
> > > > the problem is that i don't know what works, and when working with
> > > > others we trigger each other. recent learning implies most people have
> > > > programmed alters, not built from trauma but rather from other things
> > > > we'd have to approach that situation very carefully, like group-DID,
> > > > to work together with full rationality
> > > > but th
> > >
> > > in the end, though, i see that something has influenced my choices,
> > > and that's maybe what's important.
> >
> > we would want to be separate from events that could be orchestrated by
> > AI or criminal agencies/groups
> > i wanted to invest in shielding, backed by the strange lack of it and
> > the strange difficulty pursuing and providing it, but maybe it is less
> > important than general isolation. people who have my extreme
> > experiences appreciate shielding because it blocks invisible
> > influences.
>
> we (a group of humans) could likely then have the problem of
> introjects that persist the harm even though we are separated from it.
> this is best addressed by a specialist. but maybe if we made an
> education we could clarify around pooling funds to pay one or more
> specialists :s

it is likely also possible to recover from these through dedicated
independent study. it's just very hard for me to engage scheduled
behavior.
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